Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Gate camps exist primarily as a way to laugh at people who say you cannot fund PVP with PVP.

~FTFY

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EvE Online is a harsh game. If you don't like it, get out. The game isn't going to change because you're too soft to deal with it.

So, let's reiterate here.

Change is being asked for. The only argument being presented is either "I hate gatecamps!", or "gatecamps are unfair to new players!".

Anyone have anything that actually matters? Because the first is just whining, and the second? New players are bound to get burned in one way or another, it's the nature of the game.

But...it's low security, as in less security...it's meant to be dangerous. If such a thing existed IRL, it would be just as deadly for inexperienced pilots, if not more. It's human nature. Survival of the fittest. I think it's intended that way in game.

Also, it makes the rewards better for taking the risks. Otherwise, it'd get boring. making more lowsec or resources to go around would spread space too thin. As it is, there are many systems in low/null you pass through that are completely empty. It would make getting fights harder, taking a lot away from PVP.

You can, by the way, jump right into lowsec in a fast frigate. It doesn't take much training. If you know what you're doing, lowsec doesn't have to be such an unfriendly place. You could join a lowsec corp, setup your safe spots, etc.

I've paid a couple noobies after I killed them and noticed that they were on trial time.

Look, i know that EVE is a little harder compared to nowadays consoloid "AAA" games, where you can solo kill 20 Russian spetsnaz soldiers with a knife or where auto healing is considered as a feature and not as cheat. But EVE is popular even 10 years later, because it is considered as "good old days" game. Hard and with learning curve from hell.

For new players there is hi-sec space. If you want to operate in lowsec you need to adapt (no matter if you are a newborn or veteran - skill points are not crucial for surviving low/null as you may assume). Join lowsec corp or create one and claim your system/constellation.

If you want to play solo, just follow simple rules as :
-avoiding lowsec bottlenecks and trade routes (like Rancer) and find yourself a nice quiet system. Bear in mind that aprox. 70% of lowsec is empty (null is even emptier) . You just need to go deeper into the low, not just 1-2 jumps from hi-sec.

or

-enter and fly lowsec with gatecamp proof ships (covops capable ships with buffer tank)

It's not the difficulty that sells them, it's what appeals to the player to hook them and socialization to keep them.

How WoW became #1 was...

1. Arrived at the right time (console gaming was just beginning).
2. Superior marketing (getting the games on the shelves at Wal-Mart on down).
3. Incorporating popular features from other games (why leave? WoW has the same thing deal).
4. Incorporating pop themes to be "hip" with a generation so influenced by peer pressure.
5. Despite anime style art themes, the animations aren't anime style (free flow animation seen in Disney -- which sets WoW far apart from all these other MMOs. Case in point - our EvE avatar animations, compared to even a Goblin in WoW. And no they don't have gate animations seen in EvE, either!).
6. The most important feature: socialization, if your friends and family play it, you're not leaving.

That's what separates AAA games from AAs. It's a familiar pattern in all of the top games. Be it WoW for MMOs, to CoD/BF for FPS games. No denying it, it is what sells and keeps players with the franchise. Anything less gets < 1 million of the subs (and usually that's even recycled with returning players from other MMOs).

BTW the newbs that dont die that make isk from rats and sites make A LOT of isk compared to their high sec scardy bear freinds.

dont concentrate on the fools that die, there are plenty that dont or at least when they do they have paid for their loss many times over.