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So Diana any truth to that rumour....



You know about you and Heth...

You are not the only one. He does not represent the best face of the Federation.

Sir, you ARE wrong about the State Protectorate, because it is mostly staffed by Patriots. The Provists are a tiny percentage of the Caldari people as a whole. If the State Protectorate was staffed only with them it would be tiny.

The problems with Democracy are so numerous that I certainly don't have the space to ennumerate them enough. We can start with the directly observable and push through to the theoretical and still be here next year - suffice it to say that:

1. Democracy is predicated on the theory that a million ordinary people will make better decisions than a hundred exceptional people. Nothing in science or history suggests this to be true.

2. Democracys greatest vaunted quality, that it safeguards the people from abuses by their leaders, is manifestly false. Self-granted rights are routinely ignored 'for the good of the Federation'. Media outlets muzzled. Private citizens imprisoned or worse. There is no protection that a citizen can 'vote' for himself that his government will not strip away, in the dark, if it benefits them.

3. Democracy has made the Federation no more moral in its actions than any other government. Rogue deathsquads have operated in Black Rise and on Home without let or hindrance.


The reason why I seldom, if ever, take Seriphyn Inhonores' mouthings on the Federation and State seriously is because he lives in a Fantasy version of the Cluster where Democracy and Dictatorship are absolutes. In the Real Cluster that the rest of us live in Dictatorships are NEVER absolute and always rely on popular support and Democracies constantly conceal the truth and the levers of power from the masses.

I assumed this was a stealth anti-Imperial/anti-Royal thread.

The State has no dictators. It has a man who attempted to become a dictator and is now being hunted for it.

Perhaps a few points to consider, Mr. Inhonores:

- The concept that Tibus Heth was a Dictator is primarily a Federal contrivance spawned out of ignorance for any political system that is not their own. The Office of the Executor was established in accordance with the legal framework of the Chief Executive Panel with a specific mandate related to labour reforms to be set by the Caldari Providence Directorate. Heth-guri was never a Dictator, and when it recently became clear that the former Executor sought to violate the laws of the State, usurp the CEP by the illegal use of the CPD as a paramilitary organization attempting a coup d'etat and overstepped the bounds of his mandate by not respecting the checks and balances of corporate governance expected of a Caldari Megacorporate leader so was he tacitly rejected by any citizen whom understands their duty and obligations to the Caldari State, Heiian, and the Raata Code.

- Liberal-democracy is rejected in the Caldari State, not out of a preference for systems of Dictatorship, but rather a recognition that while a democracy is ideologically premised on the concept of open dialogue and discussion the nature of representative party systems leads to a situation where once political parties do come into power their interests in dialogue and discussion ends in favour of seeking to retain their hold on governmental power. Democracy then becomes nothing more than a facade for lobbyists and vested interests to support one party or another who will advance their particular agendas and the pursuit of debate descends into the depths of partisan politics where parties and their representatives no longer act in the interests of their constituents but to advance the causes of the backers who fund their campaigns and keep them in power.

- The secession of Caldari colonies and corporations from the Federation in the War of Independence thus had little ideological basis but rather it was a recognition that what the Federation truly represented was a concerted attempt to subjugate Caldari corporations and by rightful extension their corporate citizens who lived on the colonies those corporations founded and built into a political and economic system that favoured Gallentean colonies and companies through the creation of a central government that they could control. The years after the formation of the Federation and the continued attempts to undermine the competitiveness of Caldari corporations through legislation passed by a Gallente dominated Senate only affirmed the notion that the Federation was nothing more than a tool to be used by Gallente economic interests to favour themselves to the detriment of Caldari corporations and colonies.

- The fundamental flaw of democracy in the Federation then is that its elected representatives and its government is just an extension of its corporate and economic interests. Many Federal citizens express their distaste for slavery and the Amarr Empire yet the Federal Senate was more than willing to ratify a Free Trade Agreement with the Amarr Empire at Girani-Fa with Quafe Corporation as intermediary. Why? Because the desires of the constituents and citizens of the Federation will always take second precedence to the the desires of the corporations who have greater influence in the Senate than they do. The Federation and State are both deeply capitalist and corporatist societies, the difference is that in the State we dispense with the fundamental fallacy, corruption and hypocrisy of democratic government in favour of a more honest approach.

- Caldari corporations may not have universal suffrage as the Federation knows it, but it does have a system of enfranchisement through the legal framework of the shareholding corporation. If recent years have shown anything however, I believe that the path to a more egalitarian and truly meritocratic society in the State lies in a wider adoption of the employee labour reforms of Ishukone and Gariushi-haan. It would also be in the interest of preventing future unrest in the Caldari State and the systemic abuses of power sought by Heth-guri and the CPD by seeking to adopt similar policies across the State in addition to an honest introspection on widening the scope of parent company stock acquisition to corporate citizens in addition to the role institutional investiture, particularly that outside the State, may have played in the crisis that have beset the State in recent years.

I am sorry, what?

What evidence do you have that Gariushi-haan enacted some kind of shareholder reforms, which somehow did not result in Ishukone's Board of Directors kicking him out in favor of someone who wouldn't reduce their net-worth?

I could equally argue that similar reforms proposed and to some extent enacted by Heth-guri and overseen by the CPD have resulted in a more egalitarian and meritocratic society, despite the efforts of entrenched corporate investors to minimize wider corporate ownership.

Pluralism exists throughout the entire cluster. One might even say New Eden, as a whole, represents the greatest cultural pluralism that could possibly exist.

Democracy is one form of government among many. Each has it's strengths. Each has it's weaknesses. The pluralism that exists here is beautiful. As my faith teaches, everything has it's place. Everything has it's purpose. We all have our parts to play, and who is to say that any single approach is "the right way"?

I was raised with the belief that the way of my ancestors was the only way. In spite of the pain and suffering it has caused others the majority believe this is correct. It pains me to see the suffering others cause, but when I see the atrocities that can be committed by my own people, I shudder at the thought of my people suffering similar or worse fates...

In the end, there is no single answer. There are many. Consensus is not truth, it is not reality, it is an illusion that divides and conquers us. This is true of any faith, any ideology, any government.

There are parallels of what has happened in Haatomo and what has happened in the Federation in the past. It is not a parable about the folly of corporate systems, it is a warning of excess and ignorance in any human endeavor. Where some see "Caldari" and "Gallente", why do we not see people?

It is an old question though. it also does not have a single answer.

I think democracy is rubbish, let's vote on it.

Being wrong is no crime, Msr Alabel, only maintaining that view in the face of correction. I'll never take exception to a citizen of the Federation who doesn't know much about the culture of the State and wants to know more. If you have any specific questions, feel free to come see me or to ask me via mediums such as Eve Mail, The Summit or this channel here.

Now you must remember that we have never expressed a problem with you choosing to live your lives under Democracy. We also take no exception to the Amarrians following the Amarrian Faith or the Minmatar choosing a life of Tribalism - the key is that we expect the same consideration!