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Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 86
Ciyrine Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 86	#1 - 2013-06-25 18:42:10 UTC Was reading topic someone said they prefered their tengu that did this. But disnt post a fit. Of the fits ive looked up i havent seen one that does this. And is there a database of shipbuilds i can look for such things?

Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 606
Caleidascope Republic Military School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 606	#2 - 2013-06-25 18:49:53 UTC 1 Have you loaded EFT yet? Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first!


Ciyrine Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 86	#3 - 2013-06-25 19:10:32 UTC Yes. Does it have a access to database of fits?

Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 256
Hakaimono Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic Likes received: 256	#4 - 2013-06-25 19:12:46 UTC Ciyrine wrote: Yes. Does it have a access to database of fits? Experiment with it to get an understanding of what stats you can get from it. Hint: HAMs

Tide Way Out Productions 3,040
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions Likes received: 3,040	#5 - 2013-06-25 19:43:46 UTC Six HAMs with Scourge Rage and 4 CN BCUs. Accelerated Ejection Bay, naturally. Fit a tank around that. Rig for range.

Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 60
Baren Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic Likes received: 60	#6 - 2013-06-25 19:57:14 UTC Ciyrine wrote: Was reading topic someone said they prefered their tengu that did this. But disnt post a fit. Of the fits ive looked up i havent seen one that does this. And is there a database of shipbuilds i can look for such things? Did links or boosters ever come to mind.

Whitehound

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#7 - 2013-06-25 20:04:30 UTC | Edited by: Whitehound

696 DPS, 205k eHP, 293 HP/s recharge, stable at 61% (overheat: 819 DPS, 259k eHP, 373 HP/s recharge).

All T2 except for one C-Type Adpt. Inv. Field. No implants, no boosters, no fleet bonuses.

Downside: no range (25km), no speed (219m/s).

[Tengu]

Power Diagnostic System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
[Empty High slot]

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening

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Grandma Squirel

Likes received: 77

#8 - 2013-06-26 00:03:00 UTC

The question is always how pimp your allowed to go... 201k ehp with tengu links, 1250m/s, 775 dps. Only deadspace module is 75m. Not very good cap stability on MWD, but better then no prop mod.

High power
6x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II

Medium power
1x Pith C-Type EM Ward Field
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1x Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
2x Large Shield Extender II

Low power
1x Damage Control II
2x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
1x Reactor Control Unit II

Rig Slot
1x Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
1x Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
1x Medium Ancillary Current Router II

Sub System
1x Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
1x Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
1x Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
1x Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
1x Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay

Implants
EG-603
SM-706

Jack Miton

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 5,031

#9 - 2013-06-26 00:16:33 UTC | Edited by: Jack Miton

EFT seems to be a dying art...

this is as close as I could get:

Quote:

[Tengu, Test]
Damage Control II
Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
Hakim's Modified Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay

700dps
200,575ehp

PS: those figures are stupid easy to get higher than... lrn2fit

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Grandma Squirel Likes received: 77	#10 - 2013-06-26 00:28:18 UTC 6 Use officer mods in EFT... tell others lrn2fit... gg


Hakaimono Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic Likes received: 256	#11 - 2013-06-26 00:42:07 UTC Grandma Squirel wrote: Use officer mods in EFT... tell others lrn2fit... gg He was trying to be exact.

Jack Miton

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

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#12 - 2013-06-26 00:46:27 UTC | Edited by: Jack Miton

Grandma Squirel wrote:

Use officer mods in EFT... tell others lrn2fit... gg

well you clearly missed what I was going for. that's ok ;)
you need implants if you want to T2 fit it for 700+ dps and 200+ k ehp, or like 2 faction mods.
given the simplicity and irrelevance of the given task, I decided to make a fit that was as close to 700dps and 200k ehp as i could get.
getting exactly 700dps without officer mods seemed impossible with 4 damage mods (in hind sight, i could have looked at using 5 damage mods).
ehp was never going to be exactly 200k so i accepted 575 over as close enough.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

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#13 - 2013-06-26 12:08:17 UTC | Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz

Ciyrine wrote:

Was reading topic someone said they prefered their tengu that did this. But disnt post a fit. Of the fits ive looked up i havent seen one that does this. And is there a database of shipbuilds i can look for such things?

Because it's simply impossible without Links implants combat boosters and titan bonus or a special snowflake (see fits above to see what a snowflake fit is) working under very specific circumstances that those players forget intentionally to bring to our knowledge.

A solo player with the bulkiest effective Tengu fit will get at best without specific implants boosters and whatnot a simple 50k EHP +/- Tengu with the best possible dps.

A fleet Tengu if you look at the fit you can probably laugh at it and ask if it's not a noob or a kid that build it, but it's done for a specific purpose under specific circumstances and no they will not get 200k EHP without several links/boosts and whatnot which on it's own it's a lie since links are the main cause of so much incomprehension, silliness and completely OP fits.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

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#14 - 2013-06-26 12:13:01 UTC | Edited by: Sergeant Acht Scultz

Jack Miton wrote:

Grandma Squirel wrote:

Use officer mods in EFT... tell others lrn2fit... gg

With 4 simple T2 BCU's and HA spec at 4 only it's 850 dps, 800 with 3 T2 BCU's no dmg increase implants or rigs.

A T2 fitted Tengu you can't get 200K EHP out of nowhere, it's impossible without the addition of several bad implemented stupid mechanics and snowflake mods.
The problem is not the Tengu or the faction mods you put in to gimp it, the problem is links and how OP those are.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

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#15 - 2013-06-26 12:18:16 UTC

Jack Miton wrote:

EFT seems to be a dying art...

this is as close as I could get:

Quote:

700dps
200,575ehp

PS: those figures are stupid easy to get higher than... lrn2fit

Why I don't kills on any Tengu fitted with such uberness?? -it's not because EFT says it's possible that it's something to do, do you fly often 800K++ EHP proteus?

NO? -Why so if they're so awesome?

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Ciyrine

Deep Core Mining Inc.

Caldari State

Likes received: 86

#16 - 2013-06-26 15:45:09 UTC

Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:

Jack Miton wrote:

EFT seems to be a dying art...

this is as close as I could get:

Quote:

700dps
200,575ehp

PS: those figures are stupid easy to get higher than... lrn2fit

Why I don't kills on any Tengu fitted with such uberness?? -it's not because EFT says it's possible that it's something to do, do you fly often 800K++ EHP proteus?

NO? -Why so if they're so awesome?

so what if you drop the officer mods and lose some of the DPS/ehp something close to 700dps/200kehp sounds good. Any reason why peopl dont fly ships with stats in that ballpark?

Caius Sivaris

Dark Nexxus

Likes received: 117

#17 - 2013-06-26 16:03:39 UTC | Edited by: Caius Sivaris

Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:

Ciyrine wrote:

You must be really bad. It's very possible to go well over the mentioned dps/ehp figures with just a t2 fit (T2 rigs are definitely not out of place of a t3...

In a fleet (no booster), it is is over 200k ehp before any overloading and deals 770dps before overloading and implants...
By t3 standards it's ANYTHING but pimped. Fits four times are expensive are killed in WH every days.

[Tengu, 700dps-200k]
Damage Control II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay

Ciyrine wrote:

Any reason why peopl dont fly ships with stats in that ballpark?

Because they fly much better mostly.

Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 1,949
Tsukino Stareine Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation Likes received: 1,949	#18 - 2013-06-26 16:15:49 UTC fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point. Art of Explosions


Caius Sivaris Dark Nexxus Likes received: 117	#19 - 2013-06-26 16:18:33 UTC Tsukino Stareine wrote: fairly sure nobody would fly a HAM tengu in pvp without a point. When did the OP said PvP? 90% of Tengus must be PvE anyway.

Whitehound

Likes received: 2,906

#20 - 2013-06-26 17:05:43 UTC

Ciyrine wrote:

Any reason why peopl dont fly ships with stats in that ballpark?

For PvE can one fit target painters and webs and does not need all that much eHP. For solo PvP will you want to give up a mid-slot to fit at least a warp disruptor or a scrambler and for fleets will you be aiming for high resistances, because you will have logistics with you. Once you get caught does it not matter all that much how much eHP you have. 200k eHP is a lot, but it is also about the eHP of a freighter. Then see what happens to freighters in high-sec. It does not really help when people want to pop you and really try.

The 200k eHP should have about ~300 eHP/s for recharge with 700 eHP/s as peak, I think. This is not all that impressive. For comparison, a dual repping Legion or Proteus can absorb 700 eHP/s omni damage. While the Tengu produces 700 DPS here is this really only because of its kinetic missile damage bonus. For all other damage types does it only do 560 DPS. Dual repping T3s will do around 600 DPS and should come about even with the Tengu.

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