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Low-Security Space is VERY hostile towards new players.

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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-06-25 22:26:50 UTC
I'm pretty sure lowsec is hostile to all players....just like null, w-space, and hisec. So, not like they're being singled out.

I killed a 4d old toon in my wormhole the other day......and podded him. But so did I for a proteus with a 6yo pilot. I don't discriminate. Though, I do generally chat up the noobs afterwards, pick them up, brush them off, give them some isk, talk with them about the experience, give some advice and send them on their way. Always, I'll let them know they can chat me up anytime to ask questions about the game.

It's not personal. But when they tell you that you took their virginity podding them....why would I not want to continue to do so. :) I dare say they get to cuddle after the experience since most other players will just roll over and look for their next kill.

Don't ban me, bro!
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-06-25 22:26:56 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Tixam Quri wrote:
As a new player myself, I personally have not yet ventured into anthing <0.4

For a few reasons. I am both too busy playing the SkillQueue minigame, and when I do get the time to actually play (which isn't very often) I realize that building combat skills/technique and ISK in PVE missions is the best place to start.

I don't plan on entering much of losec or null until I am comfortable with losing 3-4mil ISK with each jump.

Learn to love losing your stuff because the game is a lot more fun when you take risks and chances than when you sit in hisec running missions and mining all day.


I plan on doing that asap. I'm looking forward to it.

However, I'm farming SP while not able to play much at present which leaves me too poor to start tossing rifters just yet.

Cheers

Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#23 - 2013-06-25 22:30:35 UTC
most new players, also have the comon sense to not go into low security space until their ready, even if they dont have that comon sense they still should.
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
#24 - 2013-06-25 22:46:15 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
The Problem:
Far too many "little of everything" ships piloted by EVE's most valuable sort of player "The Brave Newcomer" are destroyed in low-sec on a daily basis.

A little of everything?


Fortunately there is a little pop up box that warns you that you might be killed by other players when you enter low sec. Problem solved.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#25 - 2013-06-25 23:05:07 UTC
I don't fly in low/null not because it's hostile but because I don't see any interesting (a.k.a. profitable) content which does not require bachelor degree in EVE science and which could make me rich (or at least not poor) faster than I'll lose ship (and probably pod as well).

Data / relic sites exploration could become such interesting content but its profitability is ridiculously low and whole scanning activity is extremely boring (moving probe bubbles on black screen isn't fun).
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-06-25 23:11:38 UTC
No it's just hostile to everyone
Ari Laveran
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-06-25 23:12:39 UTC
If eve for you is solely about making isk, I feel sorry for you I do. There is so much to do and see out here that you are really missing out if the your gameplay consists of mining and missioning, for an ever larger pile of isk.

The only things keeping any one out of low sec is ignorance of the mechanics needed to stay alive or it is simply cowardice.

I'm 4 mil sp and have been exploring in low since before odyssey, have been catching awesome solo fights in frigates about as long. And I can tell you 9 out of 10 times that I've lost it wasn't because a high sp player simply out damaged or out tanked me it was because I made a mistake in piloting the fight itself.

I'm having too much fun out here to be assed with mining or missions. There are better games for such dull minded endeavors.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-06-25 23:20:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Knights Armament
Ari Laveran wrote:
If eve for you is solely about making isk, I feel sorry for you I do. There is so much to do and see out here that you are really missing out if the your gameplay consists of mining and missioning, for an ever larger pile of isk.

The only things keeping any one out of low sec is ignorance of the mechanics needed to stay alive or it is simply cowardice.

I'm 4 mil sp and have been exploring in low since before odyssey, have been catching awesome solo fights in frigates about as long. And I can tell you 9 out of 10 times that I've lost it wasn't because a high sp player simply out damaged or out tanked me it was because I made a mistake in piloting the fight itself.

I'm having too much fun out here to be assed with mining or missions. There are better games for such dull minded endeavors.


You can claim eve isn't about making isk, but that is a lie. The entire point of Alliance warfare is fighting over r64 moons, and places to rat. Isk is the driving force behind the entire game, you can't do anything without isk, even a noob ship needs guns which cost isk. Exploring space in EvE is interesting, except it isn't, its just more of the same sadly, if the game was more like star trek where you ended up fighting a gorn on a planet in a duel to the death while spock tries to rescue you exploration could be more interesting.

I guess warping to randomly generated objects in space can be fun for some people.

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Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#29 - 2013-06-25 23:23:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Intar Medris
destiny2 wrote:
most new players, also have the comon sense to not go into low security space until their ready, even if they dont have that comon sense they still should.

Low sec is where most noobs likely lose their first ships. Heck that is where I lost mine. Went in looking for better ore. Before I had even locked the rock... splat. Of coarse being a noob I flipped my biscuit, but know I am pissed just because I have to refit a ship after getting popped not at the loss itself. What most don't realise is most of low is vacant.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-06-25 23:29:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Knights Armament
Intar Medris wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
most new players, also have the comon sense to not go into low security space until their ready, even if they dont have that comon sense they still should.

Low sec is where most noobs likely lose their first ships. Heck that is where I lost mine. Went in looking for better ore. Before I had even locked the rock... splat. Of coarse being a noob I flipped my biscuit, but know I am pissed just because I have to refit a ship after getting popped not at the loss itself. What most don't realise is most of low is vacant.


most of low is not vacant, anyone who plays in factions knows the biggest threat are the pirates that occupy low, anyone who checks out dotlan maps can attest to this, even if the system shows none in local, you will have pirates on patrol catch you mining.

as a pirate all you do is watch star maps for jumps in the last hour, active ships docked in space, then go to those areas for ganking.

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Ari Laveran
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-06-25 23:59:41 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:


I guess warping to randomly generated objects in space can be fun for some people.


It is when I get to sic drones on any stupid cov ops pilot who thinks it is a good idea to jump in the same site as me.
Roggle
Tactically Euthanized
#32 - 2013-06-26 00:00:43 UTC
I run a low sec rookie corp, with half an hour of training they know how to stay alive. Some dont catch on, maybe 20%. Maybe you should join?
Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#33 - 2013-06-26 00:05:34 UTC
1. join Brave Newbies

2. be kings of lowsec

3. ???

4. have a fantastic internet spaceship experience
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#34 - 2013-06-26 00:36:19 UTC
Marmaduke Hatplate wrote:
New player here. Love the idea of making transition gates between sectors less easy to gatecamp, and also would love there to be more lo and nullsec systems. Like another 2000 would be awesome. Exploring the wilderness is cool. Getting discovered deep beyond frontier territory and blown up is fine. Getting ganked one sustem into lolsec is boring.


Fit your ship for travelling to get past gatecamps. Cloak in the high, MWD in mid, 2x Warp Core Stabs + Inertial Stabs in other lows, plus any tank. Do the microwardrive cloak trick until you get a few jumps in to the quiet system, dock in a station and take your pve/pvp fit out of cargohold and refit.

Lowsec is funsec.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-06-26 00:38:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Knights Armament
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Marmaduke Hatplate wrote:
New player here. Love the idea of making transition gates between sectors less easy to gatecamp, and also would love there to be more lo and nullsec systems. Like another 2000 would be awesome. Exploring the wilderness is cool. Getting discovered deep beyond frontier territory and blown up is fine. Getting ganked one sustem into lolsec is boring.


Fit your ship for travelling to get past gatecamps. Cloak in the high, MWD in mid, 2x Warp Core Stabs + Inertial Stabs in other lows, plus any tank. Do the microwardrive cloak trick until you get a few jumps in to the quiet system, dock in a station and take your pve/pvp fit out of cargohold and refit.

Lowsec is funsec.


assuming he is flying a frigate, he won't survive the first alpha before he leaves warp, you see how hard up for kills these parasites are, they're too scared to fight each other so they must come up with ways to convince unsuspecting prey to feed them.

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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#36 - 2013-06-26 00:45:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Knights Armament wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Marmaduke Hatplate wrote:
New player here. Love the idea of making transition gates between sectors less easy to gatecamp, and also would love there to be more lo and nullsec systems. Like another 2000 would be awesome. Exploring the wilderness is cool. Getting discovered deep beyond frontier territory and blown up is fine. Getting ganked one sustem into lolsec is boring.


Fit your ship for travelling to get past gatecamps. Cloak in the high, MWD in mid, 2x Warp Core Stabs + Inertial Stabs in other lows, plus any tank. Do the microwardrive cloak trick until you get a few jumps in to the quiet system, dock in a station and take your pve/pvp fit out of cargohold and refit.

Lowsec is funsec.


assuming he is flying a frigate, he won't survive the first alpha before he leaves warp, you see how hard up for kills these parasites are, they're too scared to fight each other so they must come up with ways to convince unsuspecting prey to feed them.


The idea is not to get targeted in the first place. Frigates are generally safe because things that can target frigs in time are things that can't tank the gate guns, unless they're setup in a group, or with instalocking lokis or sebo HICS or something in which case, a half billion isk ships just blew up your 5 million isk ship, bad luck. These types generally camp the same well known gates all the time so you can just avoid that system on autopilot and go the long way round, or add them as contact under watchlist and avoid that gate when they are online.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-06-26 00:47:09 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Marmaduke Hatplate wrote:
New player here. Love the idea of making transition gates between sectors less easy to gatecamp, and also would love there to be more lo and nullsec systems. Like another 2000 would be awesome. Exploring the wilderness is cool. Getting discovered deep beyond frontier territory and blown up is fine. Getting ganked one sustem into lolsec is boring.


Fit your ship for travelling to get past gatecamps. Cloak in the high, MWD in mid, 2x Warp Core Stabs + Inertial Stabs in other lows, plus any tank. Do the microwardrive cloak trick until you get a few jumps in to the quiet system, dock in a station and take your pve/pvp fit out of cargohold and refit.

Lowsec is funsec.


assuming he is flying a frigate, he won't survive the first alpha before he leaves warp, you see how hard up for kills these parasites are, they're too scared to fight each other so they must come up with ways to convince unsuspecting prey to feed them.


The idea is not to get targeted in the first place. Frigates are generally safe because things that can target frigs in time are things that can't tank the gate guns, unless they're setup in a group, or with instalocking lokis or sebo HICS or something in which case, a half billion isk ships just blew up your 5 million isk ship, bad luck.


yeah or you can avoid a camped system, a destroyer will typically get a lock on you and pop you if they don't suck.

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Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#38 - 2013-06-26 02:27:22 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
most new players, also have the comon sense to not go into low security space until their ready, even if they dont have that comon sense they still should.


pffft no they don't.. i went into a low security system to rat in my imicus my first day, lol. i almost lost it. no players ****** with me because none were around.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
LuisWu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-06-26 02:38:14 UTC
"Low-Security Space is VERY hostile towards new players."

Seriusly

HTFU

Not every feature of a game has to be "noob frienly"

F*** This Game
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2013-06-26 02:49:12 UTC
Dammnit, I forgot how to hostile.

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