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Loot Spew is a great idea...
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Jen Takhesis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-06-08 00:37:22 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
Loot bukkake!


Is that one of the new industrials? Sounds Caldari.
Ganon Kogamari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-06-25 16:52:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ganon Kogamari
Hacked and scanned my first Odyssey site yesterday and just wanted to chime in about not liking the 'loot spew' mechanic either. I read the article about cargo scanning, but that doesn't seem like fun.
Roy Kring
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-06-25 17:11:57 UTC
I support this, to any idiots that think the new minigame and loot spew is "fun" try making a living off it. Thats all i'm going to say.
Elvis Fett
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-06-25 17:16:33 UTC
Linna Excel wrote:

Plus think about this logically. Who in the bloody right mind would spend all that money to hide 2 pieces of carbon and a blank data sheet in the middle of nowhere? That makes no sense when you think about it logically. If you are taking time to set up something like that, you're putting something in it that worth your time and effort.


Well they are coming from an ancient archaeological site, correct? Perhaps back in the day when the site was originally created carbon and blank data sheets were rare and in high-demand. Perhaps the spaceships of yester-year were all coal powered and that carbon was back-up fuel for the ancients. It's hard to know for sure because all their datasheets were left blank.
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#45 - 2013-06-25 17:23:56 UTC
I'm not really fond of the hacking game, but I never liked minesweeper either. I don't like guessing games. Smile

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-06-25 17:30:47 UTC
I agree with the OP. Hacking needs fixed.
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#47 - 2013-06-25 17:32:07 UTC  |  Edited by: BoBoZoBo
1) Cargo scan before you hack to see IF it is even worth it and to find out which cans to go for.

2) I like this ejection thing - should be applied to ship losses and POS bashing as well.

Primary Test Subject • SmackTalker Elite
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2013-06-25 17:35:03 UTC
Possible fix? I have a space ship and if I can't track where all these items are, but am able to locate asteroid belts AU's away, something needs fixed.
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-06-25 17:40:55 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
1) Cargo scan before you hack to see IF it is even worth it and to find out wich cans to go for.

2) I like this ejection thing - should be applied to ship losses and POS bashing as well.




My friend, you need serious help. In a nice way :)
Barron Hammerstrike
Medusa Nova Mining And Trade
#50 - 2013-06-25 22:23:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Barron Hammerstrike
Aragoni wrote:
I am doing these things as I'm typing it and I really enjoy it. Doing it with another person and I lose very little loot.


Sorry, but that's horseshit. There is no way you can be on the forums and collecting spew cans at the same time, not to mention playing hacksweeper. No way. No How.
Noriko Mai
#51 - 2013-06-25 22:26:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Noriko Mai
Oh crap X they changed it again. Now it's not pooping in a direction near you but diarrhea everywhere 5km away SadSadSadSadSad

EDITt: Maybe the diarrhea is not that bad. Now I have a reason to do exploration with a friend. Loot is suffician enough for two.

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Barron Hammerstrike
Medusa Nova Mining And Trade
#52 - 2013-06-25 22:26:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Barron Hammerstrike
Litair wrote:
but it's always been the nature of exploring, only now it's more visually obvious and taunting.


No, no it hasn't. Even when focusing on the "good" cans you still get garbage, because you can only guess at which cans are supposedly good. It may read "data can" or whatever, but that doesn't mean you're going to get a semi worthless data core or encryptor. At least that's been my experience.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#53 - 2013-06-25 22:36:51 UTC
I just hope they don't come up with any other mini-games, mini-games tend to ruin MMOs.
Barron Hammerstrike
Medusa Nova Mining And Trade
#54 - 2013-06-25 22:36:52 UTC
Effect One wrote:
Out of interest (I've not done much exploration and certainly none of the post-Oddysey type), how do you determine which containers are likely to contain better loot? Do they look different/have a different coloured bracket?


Basically, you don't. Avoid anything labeled scraps is the only thing I'm certain may work. It's still a guessing game in the end. Maybe there was something of value in that can. You'll never know. That's part of the frustrating thing about this terrible game mechanic.

Also to all those who really enjoy the loot spew and think it's awesome, ok that's your opinion. Cool, but I've been looking at the employment history of a lot of the supporters for the spewkakke and I've noticed the majority are 2011 and 2012 players. All that's to say "This spews for you".

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-06-25 22:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
BoBoZoBo wrote:

2) I like this ejection thing - should be applied to ship losses and POS bashing as well.


So, when you bash a CHA and 100Km3 comes out, you're supposed to lose most of it because your fleet might have 20Km3 free space. Brilliant.

The spew mechanic is not bad, but can't say I enjoy it. Its like when my GF cooks something she's proud of and says is really good but it's not and I just have to sit and smile to make her happy wishing I could have ordered a pizza instead. Definitely not an experience I want to pay for in a game.

Don't ban me, bro!
Barron Hammerstrike
Medusa Nova Mining And Trade
#56 - 2013-06-25 22:45:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Barron Hammerstrike
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Linna Excel wrote:
...For me to poop on!

Dear lead designer, you are iterating the wrong bloody direction. It's like you are docked in a station trying to get out, but you are clicking the old undock location where the button you inexplicably moved isn't there any more.

To whomever who decided it would be a good idea to add to the game:

Really? It's irritating at best, totally frustrating at worst.


Mr Tinfoil Hat says...

This was done to get explorers spending more time uncloaked and on site longer, to increase the chance of getting pointed and shot by someone. While you are hacking a site you can't be cloaked. While dicking around with can spew you arent cloaked. AND with the added bonus of getting you to bring a buddy along to get shot also (to grab all the drops).

More active thought time spent dicking around on a site equals less attention paid to local and less mashing of d-scan.

This was done to turn explorers into better targets IMHO, because as you point out it can't seriously have been designed as compelling gameplay (at least the can spew part)


Funny how it seems to work out that way. I know I lost a few ships when I first started toying around with the new system. Think I might just switch sides and become the hunter if so many are enjoying this awful, new feature and making so much ISK from it. Would save me the trouble dealing with all the nonsense.
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#57 - 2013-06-25 22:53:21 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
Loot bukkake!


I love the bukkake if you know what to grab it's easy to get the good stuff. They should add this mechanic to asteroid mining and I would probably like 'roid bukkake too.
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2013-06-25 23:56:23 UTC
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Jada Maroo wrote:
Loot bukkake!


I love the bukkake if you know what to grab it's easy to get the good stuff. They should add this mechanic to asteroid mining and I would probably like 'roid bukkake too.


Congratulations sir! You have solved the AFK mining problem/issue. Strip miners strip all the minerals off the astroids and they go flying into space roid-kkake style.
Barron Hammerstrike
Medusa Nova Mining And Trade
#59 - 2013-06-26 00:29:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Barron Hammerstrike
So the official term according to the dev blogs is "Scattering" or "scat" for short and it appears to be working as intended-- players who couldn't be bothered with the challenge it presented before now suddenly love it.

I guess we can look forward to more of it in the future. Sad
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2013-06-26 00:32:54 UTC
I like the term loot bukkake more than scat...

Even their terms are iterating in the wrong direction.

I can has blogging skills!