Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This, this right here. Ignore all the bittervets crying about pay to win because this man knows whats going on. That said I still don't think its a clear cut case but it gives us the actual issue. What is better for the EvE comunity as a whole, the value of the high SP characters and the players that may leave if that value was lost or the ability for new characters to catch up to the rest and the potential new players it may bring? This is the real question that needs to be answered.

Of course. The thought of actually (shudder) having to pay from time to time is not something the elitist mentality wants to even remotely entertain.

Eh you can buy any flavor of the month character. All the person had to do was log on and change skills. Nothing else. Its identical to the old ebay sales of chars. You pay to skip training time. Pay to buy isk via plex. Its already pay to win. You can skip the entire game and play it like counter strike. Get blown up respawn, buy more ships n mods with visa, mastercard or paypal.

But somebody had to either predict the future FotM or train their character suboptimally. This limits the number of characters available and therefore limits the adoption rate. Its like the difference between buying a PLEX to trade for ISK and buying ISK directly from CCP.



What if you could trade a PLEX for director roles in any corp of your choice but you could only do it once per year? What about trading a PLEX to instantly destroy one ship of your choice consequence free but you can only do it once per week?

Time limiting a terrible idea doesn't make it less terrible.

I can understand the fact that is quite frustrative to have to wait for months before being able to fly the ship you would love to.
But if it would be possible to pay Skill Points with Plexes, big farmers would be able to have a 200M SP character in few months.
The number of these type of characters would explode.
You must understand that buying a already high skilled character do not increase the number of highskilled characters.
What would make the difference between a veteran that began Eve 10 years ago and a Nerd that farm 24/24 or a player with a big real life purse?
Do not forget there is no class in Eve. A character with enough SP is virtually capable to do anything. So the only barrier is the time you had to up your character. It is as if you would be able to buy a Mage/Demonist/Warrior/Thief/Druid at WOW with golds...

Remember the time where there was only 5 characters level 60 on your old WOW server... And look at Ironforge today...

Sorry but this option would simply kill Eve.

I would love though being able to pay a PLEX to have 95% of my actual Skillpoints back. So I would remap my character and erase all the mistakes I made in the past years.

I agree with everyone else in saying buying skill points is a HELL NO! ---> To Character Bazaar if you want to buy skill points

But, with that I always like to voice my opinion on REMOVAL OF UNWANTED SKILLS for PLEX.

CCP should charge a PLEX so that you can clean up your skill sheet of unused or no longer used skills.

I DO NOT want skill points or cost of the skill books reimbursed.

So people will say, that is just OCD, get over it.

My reply is it does not give me any advantage over other people to remove skills I do not want on my skill sheet,

so you can STFU!

No the actual issue is new players can skip up to 10 years of training by paying real life cash as well as fund any losses by paying cash. Pretend all you like but thats pay to win.

I wasn't against dual training because I disagreed with it per se. I simply said in those threads that why would some pay the same, to get less? I can see and I do agree it fills a small niche of training situations and that's all good. But financially it's only suited to those small periods of time. 3 months max IIRC, per char.

My main concern and as I predicted it would happen, is the claims of some it should some how be cheaper than a second account. I strongly disagree with this. If you want cheaper, then get a second account for a years sub. The dual training isn't there to replace that system, only to compliment it.

The buying of SP on the other hand, doesn't even come close to that. It's straight forward bypassing of Eve mechanics and for why? What does it solve? If anything is covered by Malcanis law, this most certainly is.

I still think that even both the older players and the new players do have the same option to "buy sp" (well i would not let them have it straight away if it would be up to me) the benefits for new players would be much greater than the benefits for the older players.

Yes the older players would max more skills up but the new players could get their first chars to a "equal" level faster. This is because the older chars already poses the skills they need and they are specializing more to different things. The newer players are aiming for one thing what the older players have reached already. And this is why I think this would be better for newer players. It is just so damn difficult to start playing this game and the skill system one of the main reasons people wont want to start to play the game.

Am I making any sense?

Only read the 1st post.

The idea was there like 1000 times allready. It´s bad. Nope, its even terrible. Maybe even terribad.
NO.

If you want plex-for-skilltime -> char bazaar this way.