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Lets help the Gankers

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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#1 - 2013-06-25 10:52:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Klandi
People - another suggestion from the COST Group (me)

I wish to pre-empt this post with an explanation of my thought process.

When I see a person that is inherently destructive both in the way that they manage their time and their life, I look to see if there's any repressed creativity and more often than not I find it. So when I apply this to the game of Eve and I see people ganking other people, I don't think there's a problem - I think there's repression that obviously needs an environment to help it.

Without further to do

The suggestion:
I move that we help the ganker improve his Eve experience and help him on way to his obvious path. This will be done by CONCORD when they show up to the gank to administer justice.

When the sec status of the ganker gets below -5, they should be ported to the nearest area where they can start to obtain the tags required to repair their sec status - and not be able to enter any high sec area (re-porting back to original lo-sec location ) until that sec status is raised. I envisage that the re-porting will not cause the items in the ship or pod to be lost.

I must add that this will help them by giving them the incentive and increase their fun by being the object of gankers wanting to get the tags as well.


To those forums trolls - no, I have not been a victim of a gank or the ganker. I suggest conditions to situations.

Discuss, +1 and flame as necessary and if this is in the wrong place, pls feel free to move.

Thx

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

0Lona 0ltor
Adeptio Gloriae
#2 - 2013-06-25 10:55:02 UTC
Naw my ganking alt works fine at -10 standing, I don't really feel the need to collect these tags.
Jumfat Kohlah
Dark Sacred Night
#3 - 2013-06-25 10:58:44 UTC
LOL - what a great idea

Could also stop all the whiners on GD that complain about being ganked


+1
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-06-25 11:10:33 UTC
What problem does your proposal solve?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-06-25 11:11:43 UTC
Why?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2013-06-25 11:13:37 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
What problem does your proposal solve?


It removes the gankers from the OPs path.
BURRITO CHUNKS
not-it
#7 - 2013-06-25 11:14:03 UTC
Somehow, I don't believe any of us are female.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-06-25 11:21:20 UTC
Unlike other troll threads about ganking on GD, this appears to have been carefully thought out.

Oh wait...
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#9 - 2013-06-25 11:31:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Klandi
Thank you for bringing that up Sipphakta and Tippia, let's lay this out as a pro/con argument

For the ganker:

  1. this person likes to enjoy eve by actively identifying areas where ships are badly fitted. This is a definite plus
  2. this person wants to aspire to be a pirate and hasn't yet got round to making the move
  3. this person obviously wants to learn more about Losec and enjoys the thrill of being tested himself



Against

  1. he will not be present to point out people's poor ship fits
  2. he will not be allowed to harness high sec tears
  3. he will not have any high sec epeen because in high sec no one will see him - he will be in lo-sec


For CCP


  1. this will help gameplay for those particular type of players, help fulfil the requirement to get out of high sec into Losec and null sec
  2. purchase of more accounts
  3. less feedback on the forms to deal with both for the ganker and gankee



And thank you Jake for your very constructive post - not

As always - constructive feedback is encouraged - but not expected

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#10 - 2013-06-25 11:35:24 UTC
-1

This idea is terrible. Once the "teleport" happens and the player can no longer access hisec, it takes one loss to be reduced to using nothing but a Reaper. The Reaper is not powerfull enough to kill the lowest level Clone rat, leaving the player in limbo. This goes against very basic gameplay designs. Anything controlling traffic that is not player generated is a bad idea.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#11 - 2013-06-25 11:41:37 UTC
How original.

OP, does it bother you yet that you forgot to capitalize "stella" in your corp name?

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-25 11:42:58 UTC
Klandi wrote:
Thank you for bringing that up Sipphakta and Tippia, let's lay this out as a pro/con argument

For the ganker:


  1. this person likes to enjoy eve by actively identifying areas where ships are badly fitted. This is a definite plus
  2. this person wants to aspire to be a pirate and hasn't yet got round to making the move
    this person obviously wants to learn more about Losec and enjoys the thrill of being tested himself




How do you come to the conclusion that the ganker wants to learn about low-sec? You see, the ganker goes through all the trouble to help him survive in high-sec (Alt to bring ships in and scout, using only fast aligning ships to avoid faction police etc), why would you want to take that away from him? Surely if he wanted to go to low- or null-sec he would already be there.

A ganker also is not a pirate or wants to be one. Pirates hunt for profit, gankers hunt for tears.

It just seems to me you want to take away a playstyle that has existed for 10 years for no reason at all - You still haven't pointed out what the problem you are trying to solve is.
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#13 - 2013-06-25 11:50:46 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Klandi wrote:
Thank you for bringing that up Sipphakta and Tippia, let's lay this out as a pro/con argument

For the ganker:


  1. this person likes to enjoy eve by actively identifying areas where ships are badly fitted. This is a definite plus
  2. this person wants to aspire to be a pirate and hasn't yet got round to making the move
    this person obviously wants to learn more about Losec and enjoys the thrill of being tested himself



You still haven't pointed out what the problem you are trying to solve is.


I don't see a ganker doing what he does as a problem - I see it as a missed opportunity for the ganker to experience a life he is obviously hankering for. For me he is calling out for more obstacles to be put in his path so the tears he harvests are worth his time and dedication to his trade. Rather than prey on useless hi-sec pubbies that serve nothing but an inconvenience to his game, he can strike out for a more rewarding Eve experience

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-25 11:54:58 UTC
Klandi wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
You still haven't pointed out what the problem you are trying to solve is.


I don't see a ganker doing what he does as a problem


I agree, so there is no change needed. Next please.
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#15 - 2013-06-25 11:58:24 UTC
See you have taking out of context to lvl5 - good work

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#16 - 2013-06-25 11:59:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Why?


Seconded.
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#17 - 2013-06-25 12:03:00 UTC
Thanks for that Thorn - you need to read the next part of the thread to get your question answered.

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#18 - 2013-06-25 12:04:30 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
How original.

OP, does it bother you yet that you forgot to capitalize "stella" in your corp name?


no

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#19 - 2013-06-25 12:37:45 UTC
Excellent idea. In order to make this a success CCP also needs to add a minigame that needs to be completed every mining cycle or the mining ship gets transported to a lowsec system as well. In addition the auto pilot should have a random chance of sending you through the wrong gate (including lowsec gates). I envision that the auto pilot error is low during day time, but increases at night, and you can decrease the chance of an error by training the new navigation skill "Drunk Piloting".

Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.

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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#20 - 2013-06-25 12:39:20 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
What problem does your proposal solve?


It removes the gankers from the OPs path.


You know Baltec - that thought hadn't crossed my mind as I don't get out much.
Thx for the feedback

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

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