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jita is closed every day to europe prime time... make a mirror jita

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Mytai Gengod
Sebees
#81 - 2013-06-25 00:44:53 UTC
I don't sit in Jita but I do know I want no part of instances. I'm not sure there is a perfect solution for this, but I do know that instances are one of the few deal breakers for me.

I'm pretty confident that as much as CCP points out how everyone is playing in one world, that this isn't a possibility.

That said, any other type of solution that mitigates the problem would be welcomed....by me at least.
Burl en Daire
M.O.M.S. Corp
#82 - 2013-06-25 01:18:55 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
No.

Make a isk fee to enter overcrowded systems.


Make it into a toll road. We need another large trade hub.

Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. Hunter S. Thompson
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
#83 - 2013-06-25 01:25:35 UTC
I may not know the first thing about how to trade in Eve but that guys tears are hilarious Lol

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mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#84 - 2013-06-25 01:41:21 UTC
First of all, there will always be a single high sec trade hub. Travel time wise, Eve is a small game. It takes no more than 30 minutes to get from one side of high sec to another. Because of this, there will always be a single major trade hub. Taxes, player caps, nothing will ever change this unless something in Eve fundamentally changes.

Second of all, I agree it's a problem. I'm not talking about it on a deep level, but from a simple gameplay perspective. I'm also a trader and it's annoying to no be able to log into the system I want to be in. Queues in MMOs are annoying, they really are. Players hate them and rightly so.

There isn't much CCP can do about it at the moment. Session change performance improvements (brain in a box, etc) have been talked up by CCP for a long time, and maybe they'll help out. I think I remember hearing CCP say that the ships constantly coming in and out of the gates and 4-4 were what was causing the server load. Maybe some trade related features could be added to the game that would help. Remote trading skills have limitations, and have largely been the same for 10 years.

Some simple tweaks might be able to lower Jita strain as well. A few new jump routes bypassing Jita, moving gates closer to 4-4 to shave a few seconds off of warp times and get people in and out a few % faster, having popular gates easier to align to from 4-4. Things like that.
Jose Ronald Palasialdana
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2013-06-25 02:16:37 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
No.

Make a isk fee to enter overcrowded systems.


Hey Mang... just give us a way to kill those never-logoffing btards in station... I know.. I know... walkin stations is way on the back burner... what about hiring NPC HITMEN (a Minmatar Murder Squad from the 1st Liberation Front of the Peoples Republic... or other such group) to kill traders in Jita or something along those lines... perhaps a viral plague hits stations that are overcrowded every once in awhile... :D ... especially them righteous Amarrian slugs that live on the work of others.. just saying..

Jose
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#86 - 2013-06-25 02:29:30 UTC
OP - Real traders alarm clock that end of downtime CTA.
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#87 - 2013-06-25 03:08:33 UTC
If only traders would distribute items to say new Caldari and sell from there too, I don't care for Jita myself but it's where everyone sells and buys.
ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#88 - 2013-06-25 03:12:15 UTC
Burl en Daire wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
No.

Make a isk fee to enter overcrowded systems.


Make it into a toll road. We need another large trade hub.


I read "toll" as Troll.

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7of Six
Keeper of Ouzo
#89 - 2013-06-25 12:17:59 UTC
trading vom new caldari is not the same like sitting on jita station!!! doing trading since 2009 only on jita station

from new caldari it is not possibel to make solarsystem order in jita (i do only solar system orders or ranged orders), or orders wie other range based from jita.

jita trader normaly set there filters to station, so its a pain to change filters anytime, because of ranged orders from new caldari.


IF it is possible to place solarsystem orders in jita from new caldari AND ranged orders based on jita - than an only than its the same and this could be a solution for traders, if they can not log in jita.

But it is no solution of all other people they have to jump in for business...
Jose Ronald Palasialdana
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#90 - 2013-06-26 21:48:37 UTC


[u wrote:
IF it is possible to place solarsystem orders in jita from new caldari AND ranged orders based on jita - than an only than its the same and this could be a solution for traders, if they can not log in jita.[/u]


Whilst sitting in New Caldari... you CAN make a solar system order for Jita (Skill Procurement2 required)... select market.. pick what you want.. Place buy order... it DEFAULTS to whatever station you are in...
on the top of the BUY order is the location... right click... select station.... pick range.. ect.. and go from there.
yes a little bit more steps to take to do it..
other option... find what you want in jita.. highlight... right click buy... then Jita is already defaulted as you BUY location... just used the ADVANCED button.

Have fun with it. :)


Jose

P.S. Still want death/hit squads for the never-undockers... P
Ryoji Tanakama
Intellectus Hiatus
#91 - 2013-06-26 22:30:11 UTC
Spiky Hican wrote:
Basically, the Jita situation is player caused, we decided that Jita 4-4 CNAP is the market hub, and it's become so successful that it's overloaded.

There's nothing much that can be done about it, it's already running on the best hardware they've got, and unfortunately the only solution is to move your stuff and sell it elsewhere.

Any system that handles as much server load traffic as Jita will have the same problem. There is no perfect solution, just keep spamming the buttons to either jump into system, or let you log in.


Actually it's CCP's fault.

4-4 used to have a level 1 2 and 3 agent, and was one jump from Kisogo (at the time the most popular newbie system). So everyone ran missions and sold their loot out of that one station. It snowballed from there. The Kisogo gate and the agents were long since moved but they cant disperse the player market.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#92 - 2013-06-26 23:26:28 UTC
ISD Gallifreyan wrote:
Burl en Daire wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
No.

Make a isk fee to enter overcrowded systems.


Make it into a toll road. We need another large trade hub.


I read "toll" as Troll.

I have cleaned this thread of a few rule violations.
Please keep it free from spam, and contribute to the discussion constructively.


+1 to implmentation of troll road. best Jita idea ever.....well..besides removing Jita...thats the best idea. So i guess the troll road is the second best idea for Jita ever.

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Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
#93 - 2013-06-27 01:11:31 UTC
CCP devs and coders won't like this however; the only way to fix jita is by having trade orders be regional. I.E, you can list items or receive items from anywhere in the region. That would cut down the lag on the Jita node enormously. Bad thing though, it creates smaller amounts of lag everywhere else.
TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#94 - 2013-06-27 01:30:53 UTC
I hear Jita is pretty quiet on the Singularity server.

There's your instance.

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