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Community Spotlight: Red Frog Freight

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Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-06-21 19:56:31 UTC
Salpad wrote:
Zaxix wrote:

Edit: If you wanted to make a really "uber" courier contract feature, have a built in warning when the collateral is less than the estimated value. Not sure if that's possible, but it would be an incredibly useful feature.


Estimated value is often bollocks.

Something is better than nothing, but the real focus is the concept that the contract is warning the person that there is a discrepancy. I'm not saying that someone should match the collateral to that number, but anything that wakes people up is a good thing when they're creating massively valuable contracts that other people get to rifle through.

Bokononist

 

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#22 - 2013-06-21 20:54:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
Zaxix wrote:
Salpad wrote:
Zaxix wrote:

Edit: If you wanted to make a really "uber" courier contract feature, have a built in warning when the collateral is less than the estimated value. Not sure if that's possible, but it would be an incredibly useful feature.


Estimated value is often bollocks.

Something is better than nothing, but the real focus is the concept that the contract is warning the person that there is a discrepancy. I'm not saying that someone should match the collateral to that number, but anything that wakes people up is a good thing when they're creating massively valuable contracts that other people get to rifle through.



https://github.com/fuzzysteve/eve-evaluator /might/ be of interest to you Smile Just a simple 'paste stuff here, see a price out of any specific region' (though you'd need memcache with a data feed into it, like from https://github.com/fuzzysteve/EMDR-Consumer)

Might be handy as a service to provide your customers, to get an idea of what collateral to set.



working copy up at http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/evaluator/

It'll take a few different formats, from straight names, to eft fittings, to a cut and paste from an inventory window (or contract)

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Vaeragoth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-06-21 22:12:21 UTC
Does Red Frog currently have a blockade running service or provide a transport service with an escort? Have they considered this or plan to provide it in the future?
Andiedeath
We Aim To MisBehave
Wild Geese.
#24 - 2013-06-21 23:32:32 UTC
Great bunch of peeps! Easy to work with and great customer service if a challenge does present itself. And for those into numbers my experience is a positive strike rate of about 99.5%.

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Greygal
Redemption Road
Affirmative.
#25 - 2013-06-22 01:52:23 UTC
I've used Red Frog countless times, and they consistently exceed my expectations. <3 Red Frog!

Terrific Community Spotlight, really interesting reading the history of this most excellent community service corporation!

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Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
#26 - 2013-06-22 02:58:10 UTC
Vaeragoth wrote:
Does Red Frog currently have a blockade running service or provide a transport service with an escort? Have they considered this or plan to provide it in the future?


We explored the idea, it could work for low-sec I guess, but the risk vs reward is too high for it to be profitable on the long term.

So it's only Freighter and Jump Freighter for the alliance. :)

Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-06-22 06:46:38 UTC
Its funny how the contracts and jumps per day plumited at the start of april when the autopilot warp to 0 people got the ban hammer
Beatrice Khamsi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-06-22 07:43:17 UTC
Oxandrolone wrote:
Its funny how the contracts and jumps per day plumited at the start of april when the autopilot warp to 0 people got the ban hammer

It was not related to WTZ bans, but mainly due to Burn Jita.
(we didn't see decrease in our pilots' activity due to WTZ ban)
Locin WeEda
Red Frog Investments
#29 - 2013-06-22 09:51:45 UTC
Beatrice Khamsi wrote:
Oxandrolone wrote:
Its funny how the contracts and jumps per day plumited at the start of april when the autopilot warp to 0 people got the ban hammer

It was not related to WTZ bans, but mainly due to Burn Jita.
(we didn't see decrease in our pilots' activity due to WTZ ban)


Just to expand on Beatrice's answer:

Here are the daily contract statistics for the days around the date for the account bans, and Burn Jita:

Day before account bans: 17/4-18/4: 5635 jumps, 481 completed contracts, 0 failed
Day of account bans: 18/4-19/4: 5813 jumps, 464 completed contracts, 3 failed
First day of Burn Jita: 19/4-20/4: 4939 jumps, 377 completed contracts, 2 failed
Second day day of Burn Jita: 20/4-21/4: 3770 jumps, 295 completed contracts, 1 failed
Third day of Burn Jita: 21/4-22/4: 6368 jumps, 460 completed, 0 failed
After Burn Jita: 22/4: 5885 jumps, 492 completed contracts, 0 failed

I would expect a lot more than 3 failed contracts on the 18th if the wtz-exploit had been prevalent in Red Frog.

Just to make it clear, if I get knowledge of anyone inside RFF utilizing wtz-exploits, or bots, I will gladly report them to CCP myself for them to take a closer look.
C DeLeon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-06-22 11:26:32 UTC
Red frog is another shiny example for how a good sandbox supposed to work.

Wait, oh yes wait a minute mister postman
Narcil
Viper-Squad
Pandemic Horde
#31 - 2013-06-22 12:39:05 UTC
Great service! More efficient to use them than to haul it myself!
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#32 - 2013-06-22 16:31:17 UTC
Is Red Frog looking to branch out into smaller haulers such as the Iteron's to make local convenience jumps between major trade hubs?

I know for a fact that Red Frog Freight would make a mountain of ISK if they provided hauling services to the Incursion pilots as well.

Providing hauling services to the Incursion Runners will allow the Incursion Runner to move their three tiered assault packages

Sniper BS
DPS BS
Logistics Ship

to and from each Incursion Center without having to jump back and forth taking valuable time away from running the sites versus hauling their crap to each new location.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#33 - 2013-06-22 16:40:34 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Is Red Frog looking to branch out into smaller haulers such as the Iteron's to make local convenience jumps between major trade hubs?

I know for a fact that Red Frog Freight would make a mountain of ISK if they provided hauling services to the Incursion pilots as well.

Providing hauling services to the Incursion Runners will allow the Incursion Runner to move their three tiered assault packages

Sniper BS
DPS BS
Logistics Ship

to and from each Incursion Center without having to jump back and forth taking valuable time away from running the sites versus hauling their crap to each new location.


Iterons are gank bait. The max collateral on them would be, relatively, tiny.

And they'll provide hauling services to incursion pilots. Anyone can use them. Just set up the contract, and stuff will be moved. You'll probably have to use Blue Frog for the higher value collaterals of your shiny ships.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Locin WeEda
Red Frog Investments
#34 - 2013-06-22 17:42:37 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Is Red Frog looking to branch out into smaller haulers such as the Iteron's to make local convenience jumps between major trade hubs?

I know for a fact that Red Frog Freight would make a mountain of ISK if they provided hauling services to the Incursion pilots as well.

Providing hauling services to the Incursion Runners will allow the Incursion Runner to move their three tiered assault packages

Sniper BS
DPS BS
Logistics Ship

to and from each Incursion Center without having to jump back and forth taking valuable time away from running the sites versus hauling their crap to each new location.


As Steve also said, we already service incursion runners in high sec with our Red (up to 1 B value pr contract) and Blue service (up to 5 billion value pr contract). We do not, and do not have any current plans about servicing incursion sites in low-sec and null-sec at the moment (if it were to be done, it would have to be done with blockade runners, and those have a very limited cargo volume, so they would not be terribly helpful when it comes to moving ships).
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#35 - 2013-06-23 13:37:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Radius Prime
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Without Red Frog the pirate life would be a lot more hassle i must say


Indeed :). The Irony that a shipping company can be a lifeline for the very pirates that prey on shipping and commerce :')

Just think about it. They supply the very ships and modules that are used to prey on their own and their competitors' boats and then ship the pirated goods back to the trade hubs they shipped them from in the first place. Absolutely fascinating how logistics creates business for itself.

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.

Gabriel Rosencrantz
Doomheim
#36 - 2013-06-24 04:32:36 UTC
Radius Prime wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Without Red Frog the pirate life would be a lot more hassle i must say


Indeed :). The Irony that a shipping company can be a lifeline for the very pirates that prey on shipping and commerce :')

Just think about it. They supply the very ships and modules that are used to prey on their own and their competitors' boats and then ship the pirated goods back to the trade hubs they shipped them from in the first place. Absolutely fascinating how logistics creates business for itself.

The Gods of Freight work in mysterious and wonderful ways! There's no part of the cycle of freight that they aren't responsible for. You've had an epiphany! Continue to seek the wisdom of the Gods.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-06-24 20:53:14 UTC
Congratulations and a very well deserved Community Spotlight.

To all you Frogs jumping from pond to pond, +1 for a job well done.

As you've done in the past, I hope you have continued success in the future.





DMC
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#38 - 2013-06-24 21:24:37 UTC
Zaxix wrote:
Sephira Galamore wrote:
Zaxix wrote:
The ability to "give" people things from a distance without having to use a contract. Similar to giving ISK, just be able to right click on an item and select "Give to" and it brings up one of those Enter Name fields. Done.

Where do the items appear, when given?
In the normal hangar? So I can completely clutter someones hangar by remote-giving him a ton of crap? Please not.

Rather (and maybe that was your intent anyways):
A system that works like the current station trade, but for that remote station.

Yeah, just transfers ownership, but not location.

I think... you missed my point...
Obviously it should remain in the same station.
I just wanted to highlight a problem that could follow your idea when done wrong. You can't just transfer ownership, at least not without confirmation from the recipient.
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-06-24 21:56:02 UTC
Salpad wrote:
Zaxix wrote:

Edit: If you wanted to make a really "uber" courier contract feature, have a built in warning when the collateral is less than the estimated value. Not sure if that's possible, but it would be an incredibly useful feature.


Estimated value is often bollocks.


Recently, it is at least a decent estimate. I wouldn't mind an optionable warning if your collateral is less than half the estimated value.
Red Frog Rufen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
#40 - 2013-06-25 01:26:49 UTC
Karsa Egivand wrote:
Salpad wrote:
Zaxix wrote:

Edit: If you wanted to make a really "uber" courier contract feature, have a built in warning when the collateral is less than the estimated value. Not sure if that's possible, but it would be an incredibly useful feature.


Estimated value is often bollocks.


Recently, it is at least a decent estimate. I wouldn't mind an optionable warning if your collateral is less than half the estimated value.


anything like the warning you get when buying something 100% over the regional value!
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