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Yakima DWB
Baited Sting
#1 - 2013-06-23 05:50:15 UTC
Tonight a group of us ran a lowsec gate camp. Boosted Loki for quick lock, and everyone had drones set to assist the fast lock Loki. For some reason, only a few, if ANY drones would do anything when my Loki aggressed something. Most of the time, no drone response what so ever. But trying to figure out what was wrong, I locked up a fleet member in a Megatron and webbed him, and the drones attacked him like there was to tomorrow. Is this some kind of glitch? Is anyone else having problems with drone-assist commands?

Any insight would be appreciated, we are quite confused....

Thanks,

Yak
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#2 - 2013-06-23 06:42:26 UTC
Maybe has something to do with safeties and flagging system

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Yakima DWB
Baited Sting
#3 - 2013-06-23 06:56:50 UTC
We double checked safeties and also made sure drones were all set to aggress. It was rather annoying, and lasted for all of our 2ish hours of camping.
Daelin Stokeworth
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#4 - 2013-06-23 14:00:52 UTC
Was definetly a bit of a disappointment. The success of that gate camp would have been much greater than it was if not for those drone issues.
Yakima DWB
Baited Sting
#5 - 2013-06-24 04:50:15 UTC
I was hoping for some insight as to whether or not we understood the mechanics, or if this was a glitch. I'm guessing by the silence y'all don't know either. Thanks for reading anyway. o7
Mathrin
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-06-24 14:31:07 UTC
How far off gate were the ships with the drones? Drones won't engage outside of the ships drone range. If they are set to assist and the drone bunny attacks something out of your ships drone range they will just continue to orbit drone bunny.
Zyphier
Fliet Pizza Delivery
Of Essence
#7 - 2013-06-24 14:56:50 UTC
Everything was plenty in range, some of us had to lock the target to order the drones to engage. Once we noticed what was happening we ran a test on a few wreaks and then a fleet mate, only one that worked was the shooting of ones fleet. We had ships landing in the middle of the group and nothing.
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#8 - 2013-06-24 14:59:30 UTC
Drones are ********...really ********. So that being said, they don't always do what they are told and if they do it's usually after thinking it over for 10-15 seconds.

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Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#9 - 2013-06-24 16:39:18 UTC
If you are using a drone bunny set to assist, their drones need to be set on passive. You (as the loki) can keep your drones to aggressive. From there, make sure that everyone is within their drone control range to the target, and everyone's safeties are set to the appropriate level.

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#10 - 2013-06-24 21:20:33 UTC
Sentries have a really low scan res, so even if set to assist they will take a second or three to lock the target before firing. I guess this issue will also manifest with other types of drones to a much lesser degree.

I guess it only really applies if you are killing the targets quickly even before the sentries alpha.
Yakima DWB
Baited Sting
#11 - 2013-06-24 22:06:10 UTC
We will try again with passive settings. that might fix it. we assumed it would need to be aggressive settings to make it work right. Thank you.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#12 - 2013-06-24 22:10:42 UTC
Make sure the Criminal safety thing is off too.

Maybe if people have theirs set to 'space pussy' mode their drones won't attack.

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Yakima DWB
Baited Sting
#13 - 2013-06-24 22:14:58 UTC
yeah, everyone was set to red, at least after the initial "wtf?!"

but then we made sure everyone was set to aggress, thinking that would be the right move. may have shot ourselves in the foot if that was the wrong answer.
Mnemosyne Gloob
#14 - 2013-06-24 22:17:39 UTC
I bet the drones were all shooting a gategun Twisted - dunno but i have noticed them being really 'eager' to do that.
Yakima DWB
Baited Sting
#15 - 2013-06-24 22:20:14 UTC
yeah, gate guns got shot at a lot by the stupid drone swarm. as did random blues. but the drones did not like going after the neuts.... the one thing we wanted them to shoot at.
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#16 - 2013-06-25 11:17:16 UTC
Assist drone in low sec doesnt work propper, it only works against war Targets and in null, and it doesnt matter about your safty.

Its been broken since the new crime Watch.

When you agress someone on ex a gate, you get a 1 on 1 limited timers vs that guy, not your fleet but you, and the drones dont care about that. If those who have assisted their drones all have a limited timer then they will assists.

Its the same with the logi going flashy for repping you up even against someone attacking you.

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Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#17 - 2013-06-25 11:44:59 UTC
I just set my drones to "Hug" it seems to work.
Yakima DWB
Baited Sting
#18 - 2013-06-26 07:27:58 UTC
Ynot Eyob wrote:
Assist drone in low sec doesnt work propper, it only works against war Targets and in null, and it doesnt matter about your safty.

Its been broken since the new crime Watch.

When you agress someone on ex a gate, you get a 1 on 1 limited timers vs that guy, not your fleet but you, and the drones dont care about that. If those who have assisted their drones all have a limited timer then they will assists.

Its the same with the logi going flashy for repping you up even against someone attacking you.

So, you're saying this is something that happens to be broken, and we just need to wait until an eventual patch fixes it. That's annoying, I was hoping to try again soon. Ugh
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#19 - 2013-06-26 07:57:32 UTC
Ynot Eyob wrote:
Assist drone in low sec doesnt work propper, it only works against war Targets and in null, and it doesnt matter about your safty.

Its been broken since the new crime Watch.

When you agress someone on ex a gate, you get a 1 on 1 limited timers vs that guy, not your fleet but you, and the drones dont care about that. If those who have assisted their drones all have a limited timer then they will assists.

Its the same with the logi going flashy for repping you up even against someone attacking you.


Good info - ty.

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Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels
The Obsidian Front - Reborn
#20 - 2013-06-26 09:04:07 UTC
Yakima DWB wrote:
Ynot Eyob wrote:
Assist drone in low sec doesnt work propper, it only works against war Targets and in null, and it doesnt matter about your safty.

Its been broken since the new crime Watch.

When you agress someone on ex a gate, you get a 1 on 1 limited timers vs that guy, not your fleet but you, and the drones dont care about that. If those who have assisted their drones all have a limited timer then they will assists.

Its the same with the logi going flashy for repping you up even against someone attacking you.

So, you're saying this is something that happens to be broken, and we just need to wait until an eventual patch fixes it. That's annoying, I was hoping to try again soon. Ugh


My guess would be that this is seen as unbroken as all your logi going suspect, in same corp, same fleet against same hostiles, but because the logi doesnt fire on oponent they dont get the limited agression timer, and will get flagged for it.

One reson why our logi normal agress with drones first before repping, but thats not always posible, and you end up with one logi in the cap chain , not agressing in time and all logi go suspect.

Regarding the drones to assists, i guess its to avoid Concord and gate guns by mistake in high and low.

But i still see it as broken, and really anoing, Special if your ex are flying an RR Vexor fleet, and just wana assign your drones to FC or target caller.

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