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It's about time Autopilot warp to zero.

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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#121 - 2011-11-08 06:05:31 UTC
I DEMAND AUTOPILOT WARP TO 14KM
Black Dranzer
#122 - 2011-11-08 06:06:26 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
If you want to fly safe you have to be at your computer.

You realize that's not a proposition, right? It's a statement of fact. Implementing APWTZ would not change this. Or would you seriously APWTZ through lowsec if you had the option? If so, I have some cheap PLEX to sell you.

Walking in Stations as a Social Hub: Business vs Pleasure in Incarna
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#123 - 2011-11-08 06:09:53 UTC
Moved from "EVE General Discussion".

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Mal Sandarr
Debaser Monde
#124 - 2011-11-08 06:13:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mal Sandarr
Black Dranzer wrote:

Sri Nova wrote:
and thus ended with a mutual agreement between players

Evidently not.




I just did a quick re-read of this thread:

For APWTZ: about 4 or 5 posters.

Against APWTZ: Everyone else who posted in this thread. (I lost count)

Majority rule = mutual agreement at the end of the day. ;)
Black Dranzer
#125 - 2011-11-08 06:21:02 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
Moved from "EVE General Discussion".

Welp, thread over, later guys.

Walking in Stations as a Social Hub: Business vs Pleasure in Incarna
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#126 - 2011-11-08 10:01:34 UTC
there is nothing to "fix".
AP warp to 10 is intended.d
Drakarin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2011-11-08 10:47:59 UTC
The problem is that, while at first glance a WTZ option seems beneficial, it will have negative consequences. If you do this, you can effectively rule out hauling as a profession as all it would now require is getting the contract, loading time, activate autopilot and voila. You'll fly just as safe as if you were at the keyboard, and just as fast.

I'm torn here honestly. It's just odd you can't WTZ with autopilot but I entirely see why they left it like this, and I don't really see any way around the issues it would cause.

Mal Sandarr
Debaser Monde
#128 - 2011-11-08 11:14:20 UTC
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#129 - 2011-11-08 11:38:13 UTC
Jodis Talvanen wrote:
Dear CCP,

With all the stuff that you are fixing, can you remove the autopilot-not-warping-to-zero "feature" as well?

It is obviously outdated and plain stupid.

Tired Finger

No, they can't.

For the simple fact that it rewards people who actually use the common sense to pilot their ships on long hauls rather than letting the computer do it for them. You want to avoid getting ganked because you're flying long distance? Actually fly your ship.

Until then, keep autopiloting, and leave yourself as the sheep slowly travelling through a pack of wolves, surely leading yourself to slaughter. Typically the reason people propose this is because they have at one point been a victim of their own stupidity/laziness and a few lucky opportunists.

Fly your ship like everyone else, and stop looking for a ****ing Easy Button.

EVE is meant to be a cold, ruthless, unforgiving place. Dystopian society and such. Don't like it? Don't fly long distance.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

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De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#130 - 2011-11-08 14:24:56 UTC
Op's a troll, but a good one.

7 pages, and the initial post was simple and not overly trollish.

One of the better ones I have seen recently.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#131 - 2011-11-08 15:45:05 UTC
I support Autopilot warp to 0km trolling!

+1

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Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#132 - 2011-11-08 16:33:02 UTC
I could live with maybe just shuttles being able to warp to zero on autopilot, after all in a shuttle you aren't really carrying anything much and you do just use them to get from a - b in a hurry.
Noriko Mai
#133 - 2011-11-08 22:40:17 UTC
btw. now on sisi:

1. select gate
2. press jump. ship warps and jumps
1. ... 2. ...

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
Schnoo
The Schnoo
#134 - 2011-11-09 00:08:07 UTC
Drakarin wrote:
The problem is that, while at first glance a WTZ option seems beneficial, it will have negative consequences. If you do this, you can effectively rule out hauling as a profession as all it would now require is getting the contract, loading time, activate autopilot and voila. You'll fly just as safe as if you were at the keyboard, and just as fast.

I'm torn here honestly. It's just odd you can't WTZ with autopilot but I entirely see why they left it like this, and I don't really see any way around the issues it would cause.


perhaps being a courier would then concentrate on the logistics side of things - you take 10 contracts and look as to how you should fulfill them, making it something more similar to the traveling salesman problem (with cargo and potential unsafe routes)

but really, i don't think having auto pilot WTZ is actually a [b]security[\b] change - in a cruiser or above, you will be easily destroyed by gate camps if you do that, it may only make things safer for some frigates and similar; the benefits however would be huge, removing the major boring side effect when travelling distant systems
Morrodenya
Perkone
Caldari State
#135 - 2011-11-09 06:16:53 UTC
As another carebear stated before me I am not pro warp to zero on autopilot. The reason is simple ... i travel while behind the screen, then i am actually playing (ok travelling is a boring part of playing but it is A part), i am doing whatever except being in eve while travelling ... well i am not playing (might be I have something important to do in real life or whatever BUT fact is i am not playing). So being rewarded for it by actually travelling faster and safer while also doing stuff in game (even if just drooling at my oh so awesome ship) seems sensible to me.

Would want to comment one thing though. Some people here need to learn some respect. It is not because you dont agree with someone you need to resort to the 'get the **** out noob'-rethoric or 'you crying carebear'-responses. It does not add to the discussion and does not show that you have the least of respect for your fellow gamers.
Jaldard
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#136 - 2011-11-09 18:05:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaldard
Jodis Talvanen wrote:
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Jodis Talvanen wrote:
None of the above is a valid reason for not having "warping to zero", in fact, warping-to-zero is the most logical thing to have with an "autopilot" feature.

There is no reason to leave out this "feature" when CCP is already fixing a lot of the nonsense in the game.


For the sake of context please list other nonsense that is in the game that CCP are fixing.


Learning skills

Agents

CONCORDED insurance
+1
also they forgot wardecs =(

Psychophantic wrote:
INB4 pilots already using the auto warp to 0 hack wanting to maintain their advantage.

Oops, too late.
qft