EVE General Discussion

+1

It's starting to be a little bit ridiculous. The same with TIDI, not too large fleets in relative empty regions spike to 90%. The settings are a bit tight/sharp.

I courier-contract everything out of Jita. It has 2 disctinct advantages:

1. Someone eventually picks up the contract and thus, leaves Jita.
2. Thanks to a decent collateral most of the risk lies with the contractee.

I'd rather increase the taxes at jita. This just annoys people, needlessly. At least have some sort of queuing system so people don't have to spam.

Let me get this right - you think that serious lag and the inability to jump into a system because it is overloaded are not real problems? I don't really know what to say to that other than please try not to contribute any further. OP's solution is a bad one but denying that there is any problem is just bizarre.

Go to another trade hub, problem solved. Never understood why someone HAS to be in Jita

That's like saying the solution to a laggy fleet fight is to take your ship and go and fight somewhere else - i.e. it's complete nonsense.

OP's solution to the problem is terrible but the claim that there is no problem is idiotic, as is the claim that the solution is to trade in another hub. The correct workaround, as other have pointed out, is to trade in Jita from a neighbouring system and only visit when you need to haul something.

Odd...

Everyday during Primetime EU TZ.

I see all those people at the gate... laugh and then press the jump button a few times and jump into jita.

They are fine if you want to do something other than the specific types of trading that you can only do in Jita. But if you want to play those particular games (e.g. high volume swing trading on raw materials or fighting 0.01 wars for significant market segments) you just can't do them elsewhere. If you want to be a trader then you go to where the appropriate market is. You can't just head off somewhere else and expect the market to come to you. It's the same with fleet fights - they take place at specific locations and if you want to take part you have to be where the fight is. You can't just go to another system of your choosing and still expect to be involved.

So what exactly isnt in Amarr?

a) volume - if I remember correctly, the Amarr market has only about 15% of the volume of the Jita market. The volume in Jita is more than double the other market hubs combined and changes in Jita cause changes in the other hubs.

b) control - because of its volume Jita is the only place you can carry out effective manipulations of the global economy. Any attempt to do so in regional hubs will always be at the mercy of someone in Jita.

c) range of goods - have a look at the amount of moon minerals, for example, on the Amarr market (or any other non-Jita market). You will see that this entire market segment pretty much goes to Jita and that makes Jita the centre for all derivative products as well. The same is true for most things that arrive in high-sec from null. They arrive in Jita specifically and are then spread our to the other hubs. If you are not in Jita you are not going to be able to take part in that trade sector.
(edit - having a quick look at eve-central, it seems that there are something like 200,000 units of technetium on the market in all of New Eden outside Jita; the biggest sell order in Jita is, by itself, 300,000 units and there are more than a dozen other orders over 50k.)

Basically, there is a lot you can do in Amarr if you are a certain type of trader. But the combination of these factors means that there are all sorts of types of trading that can literally only be done in Jita. There are other types of trading that you can't do in Jita but that you can in regional hubs or mission hubs.