EVE General Discussion

I'm also new, about 2 weeks I think. I'be done the tutorials, the careers, the SoE epic, and now I'm basicslly pootling around doing a bit of mining here, a few dilevery/security missions there, in Frigates. I'm currently at 39mil ISK, but 30mil of that I won in the lottery in a chat channel I frequent.

I like the fact that Eve can take a while longer than 'NAO!' to achieve things. And the journey is great fun.

If you can fly Cruisers already, I suspect your Frigate skills are worse than mine (I don't have the skills for Cruisers, but I've invested that time into jury-rigging and other stuff which can improve my Frigate efficiency.

I'm coming to realise that Eve isn't made up of a level progression illustrated by size of ship - rather, as you progress in SP and ISK, you build up a fleet of ships of your own, and you ise them depending on need.

A good example happened yesterday. I was on a group mining op. loads of Retrievers, an Orca, a frieghter, and a few Ventures, mine included. We were stripping belts with the rule that if we got to a belt and there was already someone there, we'd move on - there were plenty of belts in the system, it's nice to be nice, etc.

My little vent has 25% the ore cap of a ret, and its mining lasers are slower, but because it's a much faster vessel than the 'better' mining barges, I could quickly warp to a belt and report back 'clear' or 'already occupied', saving the fleet cumbersome pointless warps snd realigns etc.

Eve's not about getting a bigger hammer. It's about collecting a full set of appropriate tools.

Confirming that we all need to skill up for 30 more years before we can start to play this game.

When you're docked in station, go to the captains quarters and look at the advertisements to purchase plex, once plex has been purchased, I recommend dropping 300-1000 dollars on plex, put the plex into your cargo hold, all of them, and fly to jita. now wait outside the station, and let people know you're selling plex in local, don't dock, because it makes trading plex more difficult.

A new corp member of ours has been playing a month and has made over 2bil.

The difference is he had people to talk too.

Heres my general experience in trading

Spend 3m on a buy order for minerals in a system full of asteroids, take it to Jita believing I can sell it for 40 after paying 12, find I was reading the selling section by mistake. Sell the stuff to a buyers at about 13 or so, and make about 100000 profit for half and hours work. Then give up and go back to mining.

In the beginning it's hard. But when you get your first kill and loot you sell some juicy mods!

By the way: join a corp that supports you. If you want to go into PvP, go do that (Loyalty Point rewards there are easily claimed by a frigate and can pay for everything a new player wants).



Just because they can sit in it does not mean they can fly it well...

EVE is not a good game for lone wolves. Although new players do get a lot more stuff these days.

If you see people that are around for 10 days and fly a battleship, yes, they probably PLEXed it.

At least in my corp though we do provide some ships to new players once they are able to really fly them. The logic is simple:
Why wait for them to get effective when all that stands between them and effectiveness is a bunch of ISK?

It'll take a little time, but you'll see then that is really is not hard to make ISK. And that you can have an impact.
But don't fool yourself, EVE is one of the last MMOs where playing with others will make a huge difference.

fleeting up stopped being dangerous (had to do with the way at war flagging was inherited for gang members) before I started playing EVE back in 2008.

If anyone tells you that joining fleets can allow fleet members to shoot you he is using horrendously outdated information.

If you aren't the high-moraled type, try to probe down other peoples missions and steal their loot and salvage. That is - for a new player - good income, easily in the range of 15-30 M isk/hour. It doesn't need much in SP, just Salvage and basic astrometrics skills. Decent align time is also nice.

Trading is more lucrative (it is the way i make money), but maybe it isn't for you.

Faction warfare should be good money for a new player. Earn LP in the rookie and small complexes (flying a cheap T1 frigate fit), cash in big time in the LP store. I hope you aren't scared of lowsec.

Training for mining barges (got the small one but can't afford the strip miners) and now I'm training salavaging. Actually is seems to be working.