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Unintended Genetic Discrimination? EVE's Color Blind.

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Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-06-24 01:07:24 UTC
Eight percent of Males and half a percent of females in the United States are COLOR BLIND.
Red/Green Color Blindness is the MOST COMMON form.

A few years back CCP satisfied the 92% and added very helpful color coding to contracts to help reduce contract confusion.
So what colors did CCP choose to make their contracts easy to read?

Green for money gained.
Red for money lost.


Bummer!

Seems they missed something CRITICAL and in retrospect needs to be changed. a person can't be Red/Green colorblind and also Magenta/Cyan colorblind, the two combined would result in complete blindness so an easy option.:

CCP should offer the ability:
to turn all green text: Cyan
-and-
to turn all red text: Magenta.

With such a small change I am sure some of the affected population will be "magenta boxing" their fellow capsuleers in PVP, and the Color Blind industrialists will be raking in piles of cold cyan cash.








Thank You Obama!

Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-06-24 01:16:37 UTC
Not colour blind myself but +1 for this...

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.

Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-24 01:17:48 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
getting real sick of these troll threads.

can all of you do everyone else a favor and (smile at rainbows) * (Text edited by ISD Gallifreyan)

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.

Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-24 01:22:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
Alexa Coates wrote:
getting real sick of these troll threads.

can all of you do everyone else a favor and smile at rainbows) * (Text edited by ISD Gallifreyan)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
http://www.webmd.com/eye-health/tc/color-blindness-topic-overview
http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.asp

Nothing to troll about here

Thank You Obama!

MaRU2760 133
Unit 439
#5 - 2013-06-24 02:18:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
Alexa Coates wrote:
getting real sick of these troll threads.

can all of you do everyone else a favor and smile at rainbows) * (Text edited by ISD Gallifreyan).


It's not a troll. It is a legitimate issue. I am red/green color blind. I don't even know what I am missing there, but I do know that it very difficult for me to tell the yellow symbol on the overview from the white ones. Consequently I have to check both the overview and the rout, in many cases to keep from getting lost. That is only one of the problems I have. Would you think it was a troll if you had the same problem?
Adunh Slavy
#6 - 2013-06-24 02:25:10 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
getting real sick of these troll threads.



What makes this a troll other than your claim?

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt

Xeraphi
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-24 02:27:52 UTC
Hessian Arcturus wrote:
Not colour blind myself but +1 for this...


Same here. Have different visual issues with the game so I can definitely empathize with the OP.

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Odd Jack Ryleh
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-24 02:45:21 UTC
I am actually quite color blind myself, runs in the family. So I definitely sympathize with the OP, just started playing again after a couple years so at the very least I know to pay attention to this now. Thanks OP!
Etteluor
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-06-24 03:00:11 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
Alexa Coates wrote:
getting real sick of these troll threads.

can all of you do everyone else a favor and smile at rainbows) * (Text edited by ISD Gallifreyan)



Did you reply to the wrong thread?
Jimmy O'Shanty
The Westies
#10 - 2013-06-24 03:07:27 UTC
I'm completely blind and I think it's unfair that CCP has decided to make my favorite internet spaceship game without sensitivity to that. I log on (I think) and play but I don't know if I'm in space or docked most of the time. I try to play the markets but I don't know what screen I'm looking at. I think I may be in a corporation but don't actually know. These issues are hurtful.

Can CCP please help?
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-06-24 03:09:14 UTC
Not color blind myself but +1
Reuben Johnson
Gal-Min Industries
#12 - 2013-06-24 03:10:46 UTC
Im color blind and I hardly find this a problem. i don't find it the world's responsibility to cater to me because I have a deficiency, it's my obligation to adapt. In doing so, I've become someone who adapts quickly and thinks outside of the box. Their'e lots of ways to set up overviews and other such things in Eve. If you can't make a setup you can recgonize, that's you're fault.
Colorblindness is like any other form of eye problems, the level to which one "see's" or doesn't "see" colors varies wildy (I'm techinacally what they call shade blind, I can see hard yellow, red, green and blue, but certain shades screw me up as they blend into each other)...you can't expect anyone to come up with every variation possible to make such a small percentage happy.
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-06-24 03:11:27 UTC
Jimmy O'Shanty wrote:
I'm completely blind and I think it's unfair that CCP has decided to make my favorite internet spaceship game without sensitivity to that. I log on (I think) and play but I don't know if I'm in space or docked most of the time. I try to play the markets but I don't know what screen I'm looking at. I think I may be in a corporation but don't actually know. These issues are hurtful.

Can CCP please help?

Color blindness is a relatively easy thing for game devs to work around, its just a matter of swapping out a few colors. I don't see how this would harm anyone.

Also, anyone who says it is a waste of dev resources is a selfish as*hole who should go kill themselves.
Joan Greywind
The Lazy Crabs
#14 - 2013-06-24 03:18:31 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Jimmy O'Shanty wrote:
I'm completely blind and I think it's unfair that CCP has decided to make my favorite internet spaceship game without sensitivity to that. I log on (I think) and play but I don't know if I'm in space or docked most of the time. I try to play the markets but I don't know what screen I'm looking at. I think I may be in a corporation but don't actually know. These issues are hurtful.

Can CCP please help?

Color blindness is a relatively easy thing for game devs to work around, its just a matter of swapping out a few colors. I don't see how this would harm anyone.

Also, anyone who says it is a waste of dev resources is a selfish as*hole who should go kill themselves.



It is a waste of dev's time. Guess EVE is the perfect game for me.
Reuben Johnson
Gal-Min Industries
#15 - 2013-06-24 03:30:59 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Also, anyone who says it is a waste of dev resources is a selfish as*hole who should go kill themselves.


So because I feel it's my responsibility to adapt I should go off myself? You are some piece of work, you are.
There isn't any common color scheme the devs can configure to. I've learned to adapt baed on true colors and how I actually see them.
I know grass isn't orange. even though that's how I see it..so when I see that shade, i know it's really green. You start messing with base colors and you screw up people like me who've learned to adapt what they see with what it actually is.

Now, you want to make my life harder by "helping" me? go **** youreself, and then kill yourself.
Jimmy O'Shanty
The Westies
#16 - 2013-06-24 03:42:15 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
Also, anyone who says it is a waste of dev resources is a selfish as*hole who should go kill themselves.


I could not myself agree further. When will CCP implement handi-capped docking stations for those of us who are hockey helmet wearing special people? How about the armless? What accessibility features does CCP use to address their peculiar needs? Or are they merely 3/5th of a man?!

End the Racism! Stop the Hate!
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-06-24 03:45:44 UTC
save the puppies!!

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#18 - 2013-06-24 03:51:42 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
save the puppies!!


BUT CLUB THE BABBY SEALS
TwistedEvil
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Lost True
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-06-24 03:56:00 UTC
I've never seen a color blind people...
Well, if that's a real issue, i'd prefer the option in the ESC menu for "color blind" theme.
And i'd like to use more colours because i can, so leave us, the normal people, alone.

in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?

ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#20 - 2013-06-24 03:58:23 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
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