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Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-06-22 21:42:08 UTC
space submarine wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
space submarine wrote:
Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.

Checkmate nerds


You're wrong, life can be played without paying for anything.

You can claim disability or live off your parents, disability provides montly income directly from the bottomless pit of the federal reserve, you can then apply for section 8 housing to get reduced "free" rent at the expense of the federal reserve, in exchange for these benefits I don't kill them or cause them any problems with their racketeering pyramid scheme, however if they wish to go to war then I am up for it, because I am keeping it G.

Now that I have proved life is not pay 2 win, and can be cheated, EvE is the same.


Good luck buying top-class hookers and blow with no cash monies hombre

But to your point, CCP should be giving SP disability to new and casual players. They sort of do this already with training boosters, but if it was truly real this program would be expanded for players with 50m SP or less.


A man doesn't need to buy the pussy, if you treat the pussy right it comes to you for free, an alpha doesn't need pussy at all, he takes it.

I however have spaceships, pussy isn't a requirement because the internet is more relevant, it is the information age afterall, and I can no longer see my penis when not erect.

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Azurae
Doomheim
#22 - 2013-06-22 21:44:21 UTC
space submarine wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
space submarine wrote:
Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.

Checkmate nerds


You're wrong, life can be played without paying for anything.

You can claim disability or live off your parents, disability provides montly income directly from the bottomless pit of the federal reserve, you can then apply for section 8 housing to get reduced "free" rent at the expense of the federal reserve, in exchange for these benefits I don't kill them or cause them any problems with their racketeering pyramid scheme, however if they wish to go to war then I am up for it, because I am keeping it G.

Now that I have proved life is not pay 2 win, and can be cheated, EvE is the same.


Good luck buying top-class hookers and blow with no cash monies hombre

But to your point, CCP should be giving SP disability to new and casual players. They sort of do this already with training boosters, but if it was truly real this program would be expanded for players with 50m SP or less.


wow you must be a really sad person if you define winning in real life with being able to buy "top-class hookers and blow". sad person indeed you couldnt possibly fail more at real life...
Josef Djugashvilis
#23 - 2013-06-22 22:03:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2013-06-22 22:17:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
baltec1 wrote:
No.


why not? scared a newb could trash your ship?

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Autumn Shepard
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-06-22 22:36:03 UTC
All you kids thinking having more sp in the game will make you a better player...

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2013-06-22 22:40:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Autumn Shepard wrote:
All you kids thinking having more sp in the game will make you a better player...


just open a new account you hardcore pro player, go to null and try do kill a ship, now what? looking forward to see your killmails...

don't forget to use your "experience" when you start crying

if you did not understand until now that skill-time has a huge impact on everything in this game, then you might just be better off with your newb account anyway

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Adunh Slavy
#27 - 2013-06-22 23:20:49 UTC
Just because you bought plex at the market top doesn't mean you need to try and induce CCP into creating a reason for the market to go up.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Jimmy Morane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-06-22 23:26:53 UTC
Harry I'm proud of you man.....your post was semi-coherent P
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2013-06-22 23:34:17 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
so why not make it possible to purchase skill time direclty with plex?
Because it's a horrible idea that fundamentally breaks the game. Also, because the entire premise is incorrect — the problem you're trying to solve doesn't exist, so all you're doing is create new problems for no good reason.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#30 - 2013-06-22 23:41:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
I like it, but with the following restrictions.

Only one plex per 30 days.

You can only buy the lowest attribute skilled SP amount that would occur over 30 days.

Say for example primary att, 17, secondary att, 21. Sp per hour 1650. Meaning you get 1,188,000 sp per plex.
When you apply the SP, it takes the full 30 days to integrate with your character sheet. You must pause any current training, in order for the integration to take place.
Once started, no other changes to the character sheet are allowed until complete.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-06-22 23:46:19 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
ask yourself, did long time players not also pay to win with their years of subscription?


No.

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Elena Purpurina
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-06-22 23:48:45 UTC
The problem with your proposal is that it would bring "deflation" of high SP toons. Lots of toons with high SP would start to pop everywhere disrupting the market with huge demand of t3, caps, and so on. And it would happen in a spiked way not in a low and steady fashion like now. This would bkrea EVE economy in a caotical way. If we buy chars we recycle toons already presents in game, we don´t disrupt the state of equilibrum nor increase the high SP population of EVE. Maybe your problem could be solved with a PLEX to change name , sex and so on(keeping forever old names at bio by default for instance).
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#33 - 2013-06-23 00:10:41 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
is this pay to win? ask yourself, did long time players not also pay to win with their years of subscription?


No, we pay our sub in order to play. Winning is something we work at, some of us over many years.

Harry Forever wrote:
at the end, it would be the same, either you stay long time subscribed and train up, or you pay down early


Wrong, SP and trained skills help but even if you got what you wanted you can't buy the experience, contacts and knowledge that comes with time.

Living with the consequences of your in game choices be they from what you train to who you trust are a large part of what makes this game worth playing. You want to demolish an important part of that and replace it with instant gratification, if I wanted that I'd find a nice FPS.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#34 - 2013-06-23 00:13:41 UTC
Definitely no. You want the skills either put in the time, or use the current system and buy a pilot that already has them, or perhaps should I say: "Posting in a stealth we-need-name-changes thread".

As for the free-to-play issue that worked its way into the thread, NO.

If you haven't figured it out yet, you need to travel high-sec more, but there are a lot of people who have 5+ accounts. Those are people who pay for them (via monthly fee or PLEX, which equates to time).
If Eve was free to play? LOL. Everyone could have their own 100ship mining fleet.

Better yet, let's just implement both ideas!
Make Eve Free-to-play, AND let people pay real cash for skill points!

Roll

At least the demand for supercaps and titans would keep the legions of new mining bots across New Eden busy.

Instead of battleships and logistics on the occasional high-sec to low/null gate, there'd simply be 40+ supercaps with 20 or so T3's, just in case someone blundered in with a frigate. All run by the same two or three people.

And I can just imagine, painfully, the isboxer-hate threads on the forums.

No. Just no. No instant-gratification of skill points. No free-to-play Eve.

These two ideas are worse than the suggestions for name changing, AFK-cloak nerfing, and breast implants for male avatars.

Profit favors the prepared
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-06-23 00:19:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Knights Armament
Evei Shard wrote:
Definitely no. You want the skills either put in the time, or use the current system and buy a pilot that already has them, or perhaps should I say: "Posting in a stealth we-need-name-changes thread".

As for the free-to-play issue that worked its way into the thread, NO.

If you haven't figured it out yet, you need to travel high-sec more, but there are a lot of people who have 5+ accounts. Those are people who pay for them (via monthly fee or PLEX, which equates to time).
If Eve was free to play? LOL. Everyone could have their own 100ship mining fleet.

Better yet, let's just implement both ideas!
Make Eve Free-to-play, AND let people pay real cash for skill points!

Roll

At least the demand for supercaps and titans would keep the legions of new mining bots across New Eden busy.

Instead of battleships and logistics on the occasional high-sec to low/null gate, there'd simply be 40+ supercaps with 20 or so T3's, just in case someone blundered in with a frigate. All run by the same two or three people.

And I can just imagine, painfully, the isboxer-hate threads on the forums.

No. Just no. No instant-gratification of skill points. No free-to-play Eve.

These two ideas are worse than the suggestions for name changing, AFK-cloak nerfing, and breast implants for male avatars.


name changing is legal in real life, I don't see why CCP shouldn't profit from it, you must realize that ccp is a business.

I would like a feature that allows players to purchase a name for other people, for instance if I give ccp money, they rename the Mitanni to Bunny Money.

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Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#36 - 2013-06-23 00:34:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Karak Terrel
Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#37 - 2013-06-23 01:16:17 UTC
names should be changable.

Thank You Obama!
Dion Cranes
Doomheim
#38 - 2013-06-23 03:04:49 UTC
I like it. +1

btw.. training more then 1 skill at the same time on 1 char for plex is nice too. =)

ps: stop saying its p2w,cause its not.
Brother Mercury
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-06-23 03:08:23 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
yes I did say it, I want to be able to purchase skill time and pay with plex, one plex one month skill-time, thats it

why do we we want this, and why is it fair:

* in order to play the game properly and beeing able to fight other opponets a certain skill is needed
* long time players did pay for their skill as well because they did subscribe for it longer
* if a new player wants to pay down that skill time at once he should be able to do so

* you can somehow purchase skill time already when you purchase a character from another players

so why not make it possible to purchase skill time direclty with plex?

is this pay to win? ask yourself, did long time players not also pay to win with their years of subscription?

at the end, it would be the same, either you stay long time subscribed and train up, or you pay down early

everybody should be able to choose the method

and it would help newcomers to get into the game faster as well


7/10
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-06-23 03:19:25 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Gallifreyan
Harry Forever wrote:
Sometimes I post entertaining stuff. Sometimes I just post stuff.

Straight


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