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Skill-Time for Plex

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2013-06-22 20:31:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Edit: before you freak out please read through the whole thing as well as the edits below!

yes I did say it, I want to be able to purchase skill time and pay with plex, one plex one month skill-time, thats it

why do we we want this, and why is it fair:

* in order to play the game properly and beeing able to fight other opponets a certain skill is needed
* long time players did pay for their skill as well because they did subscribe for it longer
* if a new player wants to pay down that skill time at once he should be able to do so

* you can somehow purchase skill time already when you purchase a character from another players

so why not make it possible to purchase skill time direclty with plex?

is this pay to win? ask yourself, did long time players not also pay to win with their years of subscription?

at the end, it would be the same, either you stay long time subscribed and train up, or you pay down early

everybody should be able to choose the method

and it would help newcomers to get into the game faster as well

Edit: some good ideas came up already, maybe there should be a possibility to train up another skill with plex, so you would be able to train a long time skill in addition without interupting your normal skillplan

Edit: I also thought about some possible restrictions to this maybe a player only can buy 3 month of skill-time every year, this would make the changes not too drastic and still new players could faster specialize in one area they want

Edit: some get it wrong, where did i write that the game should be free? you should just be able to purchase additional skill-time with plex, nothing else

Edit: what if you could buy only 2 month of SP a year, one after each new expansion is launched, this would give an additional motivation to play every 6 month, good for gamers good for CCP, please note just optional, you do not need to buy it if you do not want it
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#2 - 2013-06-22 20:34:58 UTC
Harry, stick to your war on VFK. Gotta keep the carebears hopes up.

Posting in the third "EVE Skill Training is not fairCry" threads I have seen this weekend.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-22 20:35:15 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
yes I did say it, I want to be able to purchase skill time and pay with plex, one plex one month skill-time, thats it

why do we we want this, and why is it fair:

* in order to play the game properly and beeing able to fight other opponets a certain skill is needed
* long time players did pay for their skill as well because they did subscribe for it longer
* if a new player wants to pay down that skill time at once he should be able to do so

* you can somehow purchase skill time already when you purchase a character from another players

so why not make it possible to purchase skill time direclty with plex?

is this pay to win? ask yourself, did long time players not also pay to win with their years of subscription?

at the end, it would be the same either you stay long time subscribed and train up or you pay down early

everybody should be able to choose the method

and it would help newcomers to get into the game faster as well


I am a huge proponent of pay to win in video games, I physically left the house to purchase a League Of Legends gift card at the wal-mart down the street, I bragged to the cashier how I was going to purchase a champion called Darius, I opted to purchase the Lord Darius skin as well, that way people take me serious as a Darius player in the top lane.

I was stoked and quite pleased with my purchase.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2013-06-22 20:40:18 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Harry, stick to your war on VFK. Gotta keep the carebears hopes up.

Posting in the third "EVE Skill Training is not fairCry" threads I have seen this weekend.


its just a transaction method added, like I mentioned you can basically buy skilltime already when you purchase a character from another player
Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
#5 - 2013-06-22 20:43:52 UTC
No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar.

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2013-06-22 20:46:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Mr M wrote:
No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar.


like I did say, its just another transaction added, I do not want to trade characters, I want to purchase the skill time directly

as explained this would be fair for old and new players alike, nothing to worry about...
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-22 20:58:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Knights Armament
Harry Forever wrote:
Mr M wrote:
No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar.


like I did say, its just another transaction added, I do not want to trade characters, I want to purchase the skill time directly

as explained this would be fair for old and new players alike, nothing to worry about...


I would be ok with allowing dual skill training, the dual alt training was a good idea but executed poorly, why not just allow you to train 2 skills at a time instead of 1 for more plex?

It benefits EvE because more plexes will be sold, and it won't be an instant skill point experience so their is still a reason to keep a 2nd account.

Also if any CCP developers are reading my posts, I want to inform them that all of my suggestions are the property of Knights Armament, and any copying or ip theft will be punished to the fullest extent of international and national law. All ideas are Trade Marks of Knights Armament, any suggestion posted can be purchased from Knights Armament, feel free to contact Knights Armament in game to discuss IP procurement.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#8 - 2013-06-22 20:59:35 UTC
0/10

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

BORRIS DEMONTFORD
THE OFFENDERS
#9 - 2013-06-22 21:00:56 UTC  |  Edited by: BORRIS DEMONTFORD
Harry Forever wrote:
Mr M wrote:
No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar.


like I did say, its just another transaction added, I do not want to trade characters, I want to purchase the skill time directly

as explained this would be fair for old and new players alike, nothing to worry about...


Its already fair for old and new players alike, characters can be bought for isk, isk can be bought for rl monies via plex.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2013-06-22 21:06:41 UTC
BORRIS DEMONTFORD wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Mr M wrote:
No. Specialise and/or buy a character from the character bazaar.


like I did say, its just another transaction added, I do not want to trade characters, I want to purchase the skill time directly

as explained this would be fair for old and new players alike, nothing to worry about...


Its already fair for old and new players alike, characters can be bought for isk, isk can be bought for rl monies via plex.


yea I mentioned that already, I just want direct transaction method for it, should not be a problem for anybody
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2013-06-22 21:10:41 UTC
No.
Zircon Dasher
#12 - 2013-06-22 21:14:17 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
yea I mentioned that already, I just want direct transaction method for it, should not be a problem for anybody


Never happen. The middle-men DO NOT want to get cut out.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Stonecrusher Mortlock
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-06-22 21:17:01 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
yes I did say it, I want to be able to purchase skill time and pay with plex, one plex one month skill-time, thats it

why do we we want this, and why is it fair:

* in order to play the game properly and beeing able to fight other opponets a certain skill is needed
* long time players did pay for their skill as well because they did subscribe for it longer
* if a new player wants to pay down that skill time at once he should be able to do so

* you can somehow purchase skill time already when you purchase a character from another players

so why not make it possible to purchase skill time direclty with plex?

is this pay to win? ask yourself, did long time players not also pay to win with their years of subscription?

at the end, it would be the same either you stay long time subscribed and train up or you pay down early

everybody should be able to choose the method

and it would help newcomers to get into the game faster as well





not sure if troll,

buy your plex and go to the bazarr and buy the one you want.



Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-06-22 21:19:03 UTC
Remember most people in eve are against ideas like this because they have a vested interest in characters, some people earn isk by creating characters to be sold on the bazaar, when considering peoples opinions remember that bias.

Now I believe EvE should be free to play, and isk can be purchased via plex, directly from ccp. I think they would increase the playerbase, and revenue would also increase from isk sales, 3rd party websites are already trading isk at half the cost of plex with a simple google search, and CCP is losing money, I think CCP could initialize some type of isk buy back program to give veterans a means of earning an income from playing EvE, I know of players who sell wow gold to the Chinese at half or less value than retail just to get rid of it.

Sex Slave Girl
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#15 - 2013-06-22 21:23:09 UTC
Are you kidding? Eve free to play? It will be TiDi all over space. 23/7 guarenteed.
space submarine
#16 - 2013-06-22 21:23:28 UTC
Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.

Checkmate nerds
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#17 - 2013-06-22 21:26:37 UTC
Meh, specialise...but then, everyone is impatient and wants to fly all the ships at once, when unless you are going for supercaps etc, 20m SP or so will get you most of what you want
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-06-22 21:29:03 UTC
space submarine wrote:
Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.

Checkmate nerds


You're wrong, life can be played without paying for anything.

You can claim disability or live off your parents, disability provides montly income directly from the bottomless pit of the federal reserve, you can then apply for section 8 housing to get reduced "free" rent at the expense of the federal reserve, in exchange for these benefits I don't kill them or cause them any problems with their racketeering pyramid scheme, however if they wish to go to war then I am up for it, because I am keeping it G.

Now that I have proved life is not pay 2 win, and can be cheated, EvE is the same.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#19 - 2013-06-22 21:32:34 UTC
I hope you don't spend too much time coming up with all this ****.
space submarine
#20 - 2013-06-22 21:35:30 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
space submarine wrote:
Life is a P2W game, if EVE is real then it should be to.

Checkmate nerds


You're wrong, life can be played without paying for anything.

You can claim disability or live off your parents, disability provides montly income directly from the bottomless pit of the federal reserve, you can then apply for section 8 housing to get reduced "free" rent at the expense of the federal reserve, in exchange for these benefits I don't kill them or cause them any problems with their racketeering pyramid scheme, however if they wish to go to war then I am up for it, because I am keeping it G.

Now that I have proved life is not pay 2 win, and can be cheated, EvE is the same.


Good luck buying top-class hookers and blow with no cash monies hombre

But to your point, CCP should be giving SP disability to new and casual players. They sort of do this already with training boosters, but if it was truly real this program would be expanded for players with 50m SP or less.
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