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Gate camps need to be looked at....
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Mag's
Azn Empire
#61 - 2013-06-22 15:41:10 UTC
Gate camps are bad and those taking part in them should feel bad. They are lame and the people that like doing it are morally corrupt. It's not fair. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to stop dying to camps. I should be able to move freely through all systems, without experiencing any boat violence. I don't want to use any of the current mechanics to avoid such death.

I think that covers all the bases.

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#62 - 2013-06-22 20:22:58 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Gate camps are bad and those taking part in them should feel bad. They are lame and the people that like doing it are morally corrupt. It's not fair. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to stop dying to camps. I should be able to move freely through all systems, without experiencing any boat violence. I don't want to use any of the current mechanics to avoid such death.

I think that covers all the bases.



Yep we all ready covered the "mechanics" to avoid gate camps.

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Dread Operative
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#63 - 2013-06-22 21:07:19 UTC
Gate camps are an essential part of day to day life in FW. Most efficient way to deal with farmers and send a clear message they are not welcome near my home system.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#64 - 2013-06-22 21:08:27 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Yep we all ready covered the "mechanics" to avoid gate camps.
You're the reason I posted. Your posts make me smile. Big smile

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#65 - 2013-06-22 21:11:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
I honestly cant remember the last time i died to a gate camp. Remember killing a squid vigilant who was camping with rainbow dash recently though.

Thank you for camping!

I know i link too many videos, but i enjoyed this because the vigi pilot went on to accuse our 9 man setup of blobbing their 8 man logi camp remote sebo camp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVvQ8XXNBCQ

Props to juls, who ran it but didnt get on the mail :(

Oh and since our rancer campers are posting theres another one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtPROl9YIuc

We did kinda blob them but my god, they run fast, the only way to catch them is to fill up their overview so they cant find a celestial to warp to!
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#66 - 2013-06-22 22:17:02 UTC
Dread Operative wrote:
Gate camps are an essential part of day to day life in FW. Most efficient way to deal with farmers and send a clear message they are not welcome near my home system.



I don't doubt that is what fw has come to. It's clear faction war pilots rarely stay to fight in plexes anymore. Luckily the non fw pilots are filling the gap.

Mag's wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Yep we all ready covered the "mechanics" to avoid gate camps.
You're the reason I posted. Your posts make me smile. Big smile



yay!

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#67 - 2013-06-22 22:36:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Oh and since our rancer campers are posting theres another one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtPROl9YIuc

We did kinda blob them but my god, they run fast, the only way to catch them is to fill up their overview so they cant find a celestial to warp to!
We do enjoy 'good fights' when they come around, but most of the time we get blobbed. I don't see any issue with running from that tbh.
Also gate camping ships tend to have a specific fit. Therefore when we do see a blob coming, we dock up and change. If the blob is too high we'll most likely not undock. Although we sometimes do and they have been some of the best times I've had in Eve.

We do write a big target on ourselves by being in the same place for so long, but we accept it as part of the life style. There is risk to gate camping, but if we can avoid getting blobbed we will. Hot drops are funny and although we can often see them coming, we don't always see the signs.

It all boils down to ISK. We are there to make it and avoid losing it.

Oh and the overview idea doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up. Blink

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#68 - 2013-06-22 22:42:12 UTC
Cearain wrote:
I don't doubt that is what fw has come to. It's clear faction war pilots rarely stay to fight in plexes anymore. Luckily the non fw pilots are filling the gap.
I know! Thank goodness!
aetherguy881
Grouchy Rediculous Ugly Man Pigs
#69 - 2013-06-22 23:01:05 UTC
You'd be surprised, but the insta-lock camps are broken to where they don't work. Like when you have the target locked and your module doesn't activate.

Unfortunately that's got to do with how the server is handling everyone's request...

In layman's terms:
Player 1 requests warp from gate, server grants.
Player 2 requests lock on Player 1, server grants.
Player 2 locks player 1 (insta lock).
???
Server grants "in-warp" status to player 2.
Tackle module request fails due to target not being locked.

The same thing works with cloakies.

I was told at fanfest to file more bug reports but WITH the log server running when doing so. Need to catch all of those silly condors and cloakies.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#70 - 2013-06-23 00:03:46 UTC
Mag's wrote:
[ doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up. Blink


I was joking about the overview.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#71 - 2013-06-23 00:11:59 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
[ doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up. Blink


I was joking about the overview.
Ahh my bad. Just tapped my joke radar and sure enough it wasn't switched on. Oops
(It's late and I've been decorating all day Lol)

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#72 - 2013-06-23 01:06:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
Mag's wrote:
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It all boils down to ISK. We are there to make it and avoid losing it.




That makes sense. I would rather camp a gate than orbit buttons in a stabbed atron.

X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:
I don't doubt that is what fw has come to. It's clear faction war pilots rarely stay to fight in plexes anymore. Luckily the non fw pilots are filling the gap.
I know! Thank goodness!



It's good for those who like plex fights

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#73 - 2013-06-23 01:14:39 UTC
Cearain wrote:

It's good for those who like plex fights


Yes, its good for everyone in faction war.

Since you arnt in FW and everyone appears as neutral or pie to you, i can see why you might think militia dont fight in plexes.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#74 - 2013-06-23 01:20:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:

It's good for those who like plex fights


Yes, its good for everyone in faction war..


Its good for everyone except farmers.
Crosi Wesdo wrote:

Since you arnt in FW and everyone appears as neutral or pie to you, i can see why you might think militia dont fight in plexes.


Why do you think that?

Oh and btw I have militia set up on my overview. And in case I miss it I tend to check. Non fw stay for the fight about 90% of the time and run about 10%. its reversed for the militias. Gallente are no better than other militias btw. Qcats are sort of an exception and generally amarr are better than most but that is starting to change.

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#75 - 2013-06-23 02:42:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Cearain wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:

It's good for those who like plex fights


Yes, its good for everyone in faction war..


Its good for everyone except farmers.


Nope, seems ok for them too. That means, as per usual, its just you.

Anyway, didnt you run from me the last time i saw you? I know you had your reasons, reshipping is a pita and all that. But why question other peoples motivations for running as though they were less justified than yours?

Well, tbh i get it. The way you play the game is the correct one.

Oh and a quick look at your killboards show the vast majority of combat you have got this month was with militia peeps. I could understand you being completely misinformed in other threads when you were talking about things that at best you had bad 3rd party information on. I didnt expect you to be wrong about your personal PvP activities. Another example of the facts not suiting the rhetoric so damn them i guess.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#76 - 2013-06-23 03:09:48 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:

It's good for those who like plex fights


Yes, its good for everyone in faction war..


Its good for everyone except farmers.


Nope, seems ok for them too. That means, as per usual, its just you.

Anyway, didnt you run from me the last time i saw you? I know you had your reasons, reshipping is a pita and all that. But why question other peoples motivations for running as though they were less justified than yours?.


It wasn't you I was running from it was prismn in the t3. It may seem like I am running from you because he just happens to be every system you are in! It's like he is your shadow or your blanky.

Crosi Wesdo wrote:

Well, tbh i get it. The way you play the game is the correct one.


I don't recall ever telling anyone how to play. It was always you telling me, if I don't like fw, then leave. Or now that I am not in it, that I am ignorant about fw, whatever. Do what you want. Ill keep fighting in plexes.

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#77 - 2013-06-23 13:21:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Cearain wrote:

It wasn't you I was running from it was prismn in the t3. It may seem like I am running from you because he just happens to be every system you are in! It's like he is your shadow or your blanky.


Like i said, you are correct as always. The reasons you run from fights are all good reasons. The reasons other people run from fights are all bad reasons.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#78 - 2013-06-23 17:48:21 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Cearain wrote:

It wasn't you I was running from it was prismn in the t3. It may seem like I am running from you because he just happens to be every system you are in! It's like he is your shadow or your blanky.


Like i said, you are correct as always. The reasons you run from fights are all good reasons. The reasons other people run from fights are all bad reasons.


I'm not sure where you think I said that. I have long maintained that the best way to win fw sov is by running from all fights and rabbit plexing. So if you are wanting to win fw sov it is a good reason to run. That's how its set up.

It is however good for people who like to pvp in plexes that people other than people out to win fw sov enter them.

If you want to say I am wrong or bad from running from your t3 and frigate that's fine.

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Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#79 - 2013-06-23 23:21:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Major Killz
Mag's wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
[ doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up. Blink


I was joking about the overview.
Ahh my bad. Just tapped my joke radar and sure enough it wasn't switched on. Oops
(It's late and I've been decorating all day Lol)


Don't worry you're not alone. I'm also a coward AND a space Ninja. So, I also like to sneak around and run away. I leave bravery to Heroes and other professionals who die a lot (firemen, police officers, soldiers etc). Nope, not for me! I prefer being a coward.

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ！[/u]
Mag's
Azn Empire
#80 - 2013-06-23 23:50:26 UTC
Major Killz wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
[ doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up. Blink


I was joking about the overview.
Ahh my bad. Just tapped my joke radar and sure enough it wasn't switched on. Oops
(It's late and I've been decorating all day Lol)


Don't worry you're not alone. I'm also a coward AND a space Ninja. So, I also like to sneak around and run away. I leave bravery to Heroes and other professionals who die a lot (firemen, police officers, soldiers etc). Nope, not for me! I prefer being a coward.
Grats I guess. What?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.