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Why does CCP discourage experimentation in EvE Online?
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Adam Gamel
Doomheim
#61 - 2013-06-22 18:23:30 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:


Where are these kill mails? I mean if your going to be an ******* and not help me out then why even post?


We killed over 600 exhumers in the caldari ice interdiction with 14 day old destroyer pilots.

We have killed over 3 trillion in assets using talos pilots a few months old in freighters alone this year. You can find said kills splattered all over EVE-Kill.



That's an Exhumer not a ship ready to fight in PVP. I don't have a Talos so I don't know how this applies to me but ok.
Adam Gamel
Doomheim
#62 - 2013-06-22 18:28:19 UTC
It's obvious no one is going to help me.

Forget I ever posted this.

I will just move on to something else.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#63 - 2013-06-22 18:29:33 UTC
Adam Gamel wrote:
It's obvious no one is going to help me.
Everyone has been helping you.
Dewa Cinta
Horrible Mining Corp
#64 - 2013-06-22 18:32:31 UTC
Adam Gamel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:


Where are these kill mails? I mean if your going to be an ******* and not help me out then why even post?


We killed over 600 exhumers in the caldari ice interdiction with 14 day old destroyer pilots.

We have killed over 3 trillion in assets using talos pilots a few months old in freighters alone this year. You can find said kills splattered all over EVE-Kill.



That's an Exhumer not a ship ready to fight in PVP. I don't have a Talos so I don't know how this applies to me but ok.


Talos kills the freighter, destroyers kill exhumers.


Just go join RVB or brave newbies.
Adam Gamel
Doomheim
#65 - 2013-06-22 18:35:21 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:
It's obvious no one is going to help me.
Everyone has been helping you.



I don't feel helped but instead verbally abused. I'm done. You quoting me and instigating me further is also not help.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#66 - 2013-06-22 18:35:57 UTC
Adam Gamel wrote:



That's an Exhumer not a ship ready to fight in PVP. I don't have a Talos so I don't know how this applies to me but ok.


A ships a ship.

We have day old newbees tackling carriers in rifters.
Adam Gamel
Doomheim
#67 - 2013-06-22 18:37:18 UTC
Dewa Cinta wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:


Where are these kill mails? I mean if your going to be an ******* and not help me out then why even post?


We killed over 600 exhumers in the caldari ice interdiction with 14 day old destroyer pilots.

We have killed over 3 trillion in assets using talos pilots a few months old in freighters alone this year. You can find said kills splattered all over EVE-Kill.



That's an Exhumer not a ship ready to fight in PVP. I don't have a Talos so I don't know how this applies to me but ok.


Talos kills the freighter, destroyers kill exhumers.


Just go join RVB or brave newbies.



I was thinking about doing this, but I will just run into the same kind of people that I've run into here on the forums.

I think I will just quit EvE altogether and find something else to do with my time something less frustrating and less stressful.
Adam Gamel
Doomheim
#68 - 2013-06-22 18:38:34 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:



That's an Exhumer not a ship ready to fight in PVP. I don't have a Talos so I don't know how this applies to me but ok.


A ships a ship.

We have day old newbees tackling carriers in rifters.



Rifter is a ship designed for combat , a Exhumer is a ship designed for mining. I still don't get how all this applies but thanks.
Amarra Mandalin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2013-06-22 18:38:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
RvB hosts many low-skilled players with little money and yet has more kills then most alliances. There is even a ship replacement program and low-cost ships -- as some mentioned Isk.

Even if you don't like pre-arranged fights you can take off with others and go to low sec, null, wormholes etc.

I had a low-skilled alt that had more kills in a rifter (pre-rebalance) then some of my higher SP characters -- mainly because I didn't care if i lost ships so engaged more. I think it took 2 1/2 mos -- give or take a couple weeks -- to get her into an interceptor and Firetail with decent (not perfect) skills.

And you really benefit from the experience of T1 before jumping into T2 -- unless you and your corp don't mind losing more Isk then you have to, to learn.
Swordfingers
The Swollen Horse Society
#70 - 2013-06-22 18:39:22 UTC
Adam Gamel wrote:
Dewa Cinta wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:


Where are these kill mails? I mean if your going to be an ******* and not help me out then why even post?


We killed over 600 exhumers in the caldari ice interdiction with 14 day old destroyer pilots.

We have killed over 3 trillion in assets using talos pilots a few months old in freighters alone this year. You can find said kills splattered all over EVE-Kill.



That's an Exhumer not a ship ready to fight in PVP. I don't have a Talos so I don't know how this applies to me but ok.


Talos kills the freighter, destroyers kill exhumers.


Just go join RVB or brave newbies.



I was thinking about doing this, but I will just run into the same kind of people that I've run into here on the forums.

I think I will just quit EvE altogether and find something else to do with my time something less frustrating and less stressful.

Maybe you should, the game obviously doesn't suit you.
Dewa Cinta
Horrible Mining Corp
#71 - 2013-06-22 18:39:50 UTC
Adam Gamel wrote:
Dewa Cinta wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:


Where are these kill mails? I mean if your going to be an ******* and not help me out then why even post?


We killed over 600 exhumers in the caldari ice interdiction with 14 day old destroyer pilots.

We have killed over 3 trillion in assets using talos pilots a few months old in freighters alone this year. You can find said kills splattered all over EVE-Kill.



That's an Exhumer not a ship ready to fight in PVP. I don't have a Talos so I don't know how this applies to me but ok.


Talos kills the freighter, destroyers kill exhumers.


Just go join RVB or brave newbies.



I was thinking about doing this, but I will just run into the same kind of people that I've run into here on the forums.

I think I will just quit EvE altogether and find something else to do with my time something less frustrating and less stressful.


You never know until you try. These forums are a cesspool, shouldn't take them too seriously.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#72 - 2013-06-22 18:41:43 UTC
Adam Gamel wrote:



Rifter is a ship designed for combat , a Exhumer is a ship designed for mining. I still don't get how all this applies but thanks.


While you are sitting in station doing nothing they are out blowing stuff up and having fun.
Amarra Mandalin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#73 - 2013-06-22 18:46:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
Swordfingers wrote:
Adam Gamel wrote:



I was thinking about doing this, but I will just run into the same kind of people that I've run into here on the forums.

I think I will just quit EvE altogether and find something else to do with my time something less frustrating and less stressful.


Maybe you should, the game obviously doesn't suit you.


I guess the way the thread was entitled should have been a clue...oh well. Karma points for the good.

And OP, there is nothing wrong if you find the game stressful. You're not alone in that. It's not for everyone.
Jimmy Morane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#74 - 2013-06-22 18:50:57 UTC
I'm sorry OP, but it sounds like you are the one that won't let yourself experiment in the game not ccp.

You need to get out and do some stuff, and you don't need 4-5 maxed skills to do it either. I should know.
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#75 - 2013-06-22 19:04:06 UTC
Welcome to EVE...now get the **** out.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#76 - 2013-06-22 19:06:33 UTC
Adam Gamel wrote:
I have EvE Mon and EFT, I've heard that following Certs is not something I should do,




well I just cherry pick them for what I find relevant and useful. you're not going to need to train everything in them because it'll take forever. they're helpful because eve's skill system really isn't, it's tremendously complex.

forums.  serious business.
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2013-06-22 19:30:24 UTC
I don't see the problem here. I have just over 1mil SP and I'm having a blast.

Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#78 - 2013-06-22 20:07:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Knights Armament
MMORPGs are about keeping the person playing for a longtime in order to obtain monthly subscription fees, by limiting the amount of skills a person can learn, it increases income in a few ways.

#1 The player will have a goal in mind, people like goals it makes them play longer.
#2 A focused character can do the same thing as a veteran, this means people will have more than 1 account they pay for, one for pvp, one for mining etc.
#3 EvE is a universe that needs people to do the ***** work, if no one is mining or building ships than no one is pvping, you need to earn your stripes by doing the ***** work, everyone else did.
#4 Instant gratification isn't for people who play EvE, sure you can purchase an account with isk you bought, but you'll most likely still suck at the game, and quit once you have no goals left to accomplish.


Most mmorpgs are failures today, they copy world of warcraft and try to be the next big thing, but they aren't Blizzard, people will play WOW just because they are fans of Blizzard, this is what game developers don't recognize when they're dropping 500 million dollars onto a game that is trying to be wow, SWTOR, they aren't wow.

A real MMORPG is the sandbox, you let players decide how the game should be played, thats what ultima online did well from 1996-1999 RIP, and eve copied every bit of those gameplay mechanics and added space ships. They didn't try to be Blizzard, they where trying to be ORIGIN, and succeeded more so than ORIGIN.

The idea is to earn something, thats why skill training online is so great, no one is equal.

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#79 - 2013-06-22 20:10:19 UTC
Eve is CCP's sandbox, not yours.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2013-06-22 20:16:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
My BootCamp members that have no skills to fit techII items would like to proof you wrong.

They have killed more in their first two months than most so called PVP corps.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk