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A miners dream.

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Katarr Ne'asirr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-22 17:30:18 UTC
I love drones and i make skills but i am very dissapointed of how usless it is.
Thx for adding rigs but its just simply not enough. Why?
fact 1. With slow harvester drones you can have 1500 yeild per 180 secs.
fact 2. To max drone skills you must make 6 skills to lev 5. Witch is: electronics ,jury rigging mining upgrades(those 3 couse of lacking CPU for rigs) , drones , drone interfacing , mining drone operation.
The time invested in this skills is just not worth it when you can upgrade strips and max strips that can have their cycle time reduced by orca.
And it is a lot of time. I got implants and drone interfacing 5 takes so long.and thats just 1 skill.Time isint the problem.The problem is efficiency of it, time-price is too much for it.
And you can see that not many miners actually use drones and everyone says its a waste of time.

Im a drone guy and i wish you could make drones better OR (this is my dream) make a secound skill or add to interfacing operating 5 more drones.
Seeing 10 drones mine must be sooooo cool :).
Hamatitio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-06-22 17:35:25 UTC
What are you blathering on about?
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2013-06-22 17:45:33 UTC
As a miner, I don't dream of yield, I dream of awesome. Like all the stuff in my signature.

Hmm... let's say, they add the huge multi ore asteroids from me and then they add the minecrafty depletion through asteroid instability and deposits breaking apart and scatter away, mining drones could be re-purposed to be used as the prime devices to collect the scattered deposit pieces (and any remaining vein pieces, if any) over manually flying about in a frigate (Venture).

Well, yeah, no, to hell with scatter mechanics.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2013-06-22 17:48:51 UTC
Katarr Ne'asirr wrote:
Im a drone guy and i wish you could make drones better OR (this is my dream) make a secound skill or add to interfacing operating 5 more drones.
Seeing 10 drones mine must be sooooo cool :).
Drone interfacing used to do that, but to no-one's surprise, having 10 drones spew out of every ship caused a teeeensy bit of lag.

So they changed it so that it just gave +20% per level, which accomplishes the same thing. Don't expect them to change it back (or to just double the drone capacity and server load for no particular reason).
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#5 - 2013-06-22 17:56:16 UTC
I didn't see anything in the whole original post about the most important thing of all: compliance with the Code.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Katarr Ne'asirr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-22 18:11:21 UTC
dosent matter what way you take.the point is to eliminate "drones is a waste of time".
Koj 'Jok
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-22 18:28:47 UTC
Mining drones are useful, especially if you don't regularly get boosted. When mining in my retriever, non-boosted, my 4 T2 drones give me almost 25% yield increase(I keep 1 light scout for defense).
Besides, both Drones and Drone Interfacing are valuable to any pilot, so you arn't 'wasting' your time training them up to 5. You will use them again once you move on from mining.
Katarr Ne'asirr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-22 18:38:06 UTC
whats the point spending 1 "time unit" on drones that increase yeild by 25% since you can spend 0.7 "time unit" on upgrading strips that give you better yeild?
Drones is like a last option to increase yeild and if you do it , you do it at the end. They arent a tool of a miner, its a small add to it.
Name of mining drones should be "little thingys that dont mine much but look cool and take a lot of time to master drones". :D
Charlie Jacobson
#9 - 2013-06-22 19:01:21 UTC
Hey, I like time units. Are we playing the original X-COM? Terror from the Deep maybe? Reserve those time units for auto-shot instead of wasting them on this silliness.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#10 - 2013-06-22 19:21:43 UTC
Katarr Ne'asirr wrote:
Seeing 10 drones mine must be sooooo cool :).


Yes, the ultimate in afk laziness...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#11 - 2013-06-22 19:33:26 UTC
Make friend? Both poop drones? Yaaaaay 10 drones! Ugh
Jimmy Morane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-06-22 19:39:30 UTC
I'm sensing I'm posting in a stealth post about which I haven't quite figured out yet. hmmm
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-06-22 20:38:46 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
I didn't see anything in the whole original post about the most important thing of all: compliance with the Code.


To hell with the code. Those people aren't important. Should be ignored.

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Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
#14 - 2013-06-23 01:41:18 UTC
Katarr Ne'asirr wrote:
dosent matter what way you take.the point is to eliminate "drones is a waste of time".


Rainman.... is that you ?
I've done some really stupid shit in this game.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-06-23 01:50:21 UTC
Katarr Ne'asirr wrote:
I love drones and i make skills but i am very dissapointed of how usless it is.
Thx for adding rigs but its just simply not enough. Why?
fact 1. With slow harvester drones you can have 1500 yeild per 180 secs.
fact 2. To max drone skills you must make 6 skills to lev 5. Witch is: electronics ,jury rigging mining upgrades(those 3 couse of lacking CPU for rigs) , drones , drone interfacing , mining drone operation.
The time invested in this skills is just not worth it when you can upgrade strips and max strips that can have their cycle time reduced by orca.
And it is a lot of time. I got implants and drone interfacing 5 takes so long.and thats just 1 skill.Time isint the problem.The problem is efficiency of it, time-price is too much for it.
And you can see that not many miners actually use drones and everyone says its a waste of time.

Im a drone guy and i wish you could make drones better OR (this is my dream) make a secound skill or add to interfacing operating 5 more drones.
Seeing 10 drones mine must be sooooo cool :).



I have a bigger dream, imagine a ship designed to be a front line fleet ship, but its tech 3 weapons also function as mining lasers, it would be a Romulan design, and could create black holes that would send enemy ships deep into the bottomless gravity well of that singularity we call the black hole.
Katarr Ne'asirr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-06-25 14:18:55 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
Katarr Ne'asirr wrote:
I love drones and i make skills but i am very dissapointed of how usless it is.
Thx for adding rigs but its just simply not enough. Why?
fact 1. With slow harvester drones you can have 1500 yeild per 180 secs.
fact 2. To max drone skills you must make 6 skills to lev 5. Witch is: electronics ,jury rigging mining upgrades(those 3 couse of lacking CPU for rigs) , drones , drone interfacing , mining drone operation.
The time invested in this skills is just not worth it when you can upgrade strips and max strips that can have their cycle time reduced by orca.
And it is a lot of time. I got implants and drone interfacing 5 takes so long.and thats just 1 skill.Time isint the problem.The problem is efficiency of it, time-price is too much for it.
And you can see that not many miners actually use drones and everyone says its a waste of time.

Im a drone guy and i wish you could make drones better OR (this is my dream) make a secound skill or add to interfacing operating 5 more drones.
Seeing 10 drones mine must be sooooo cool :).



I have a bigger dream, imagine a ship designed to be a front line fleet ship, but its tech 3 weapons also function as mining lasers, it would be a Romulan design, and could create black holes that would send enemy ships deep into the bottomless gravity well of that singularity we call the black hole.


that one exists , its called "motherinlaw ship".
RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-06-25 14:36:08 UTC
When I day dream, I dream of old warehouses near where I live. And in it hundreds of computers with people behind them playing eve. With me sitting at a command desk giving orders and preparing fleets of miners to make me isk. I dream of this group of people and I forming alliances, and sending these hundreds of people in battleships to help an alliance. These are the things I think about at work.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#18 - 2013-06-25 14:36:53 UTC
Katarr Ne'asirr wrote:
Witch is



http://www.jumpoverthere.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/fail.jpg

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#19 - 2013-06-25 14:40:32 UTC
RAIN Arthie wrote:
When I day dream, I dream of old warehouses near where I live. And in it hundreds of computers with people behind them playing eve. With me sitting at a command desk giving orders and preparing fleets of miners to make me isk. I dream of this group of people and I forming alliances, and sending these hundreds of people in battleships to help an alliance. These are the things I think about at work.


So get to work on it - a decent lottery win and the wage-slave alliance could be yours!
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-06-25 14:44:18 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Katarr Ne'asirr wrote:
Im a drone guy and i wish you could make drones better OR (this is my dream) make a secound skill or add to interfacing operating 5 more drones.
Seeing 10 drones mine must be sooooo cool :).
Drone interfacing used to do that, but to no-one's surprise, having 10 drones spew out of every ship caused a teeeensy bit of lag.

So they changed it so that it just gave +20% per level, which accomplishes the same thing. Don't expect them to change it back (or to just double the drone capacity and server load for no particular reason).


Was it only because of trouble in blobs or was there lag in other situation? Just wondering how it was back then.