EVE General Discussion

Personally I like the idea of EVE and Dust being linked.

I'd like to see Dust have a slightly larger impact on EVE, at the moment I notice absolutely no change. Barely ever hear about Dust any more.

But I do not want either game to be dependant at all on the other. Which I realise makes it very difficult for CCP to achieve a good balance. If EVE players could do the things they already do but maybe get some bonuses from Dust or something then I think it would be all right. But the bonuses need to be big enough that players actually want them.

Wish I could like this post 10 more times.

Yes and No.

Yes, if they bring Dust to pc. I dream of the day when we can have the space marines help in the fight against illegal miners.

No, if it stays on playstation.

I don't particularly care. I mean, okay, yes, the theoretical idea of providing fire support to people in an FPS from a ship is kind of cool, but then I stop and think to myself, now hang on, does that really even matter? It's neat, but it's not profitable, it's not useful, it's not even that interesting. My function could be replaced by a simple game mechanic. Their function could be removed entirely; We functioned just fine without them. And it's a console game on a dying platform, no less. Even when the PS4 comes out, presumably CCP are going to continue to try and maintain compatibility with DUST, which will mean the game will be limited by current hardware.

I'd have been far happier to have seen all that development time and money put into the WIS side of Eve. Or hell, even that.. whatever the hell MMO with the vampires thing CCP is working on? I don't even give a crap about that, but I think it'd be a better investment of time than a dudebro FPS.

That first person flying game with the carriers at fanfest probably impressed a lot of people. It didn't impress me one bit; The reason why was because I know enough about Eve's server structure to know how unfeasible it would be to have that kind of gameplay integrated into Eve as a separate game.

Anyway. If CCP wants an FPS based on the Eve universe, more power to them I guess, but it really doesn't need to be integrated with Eve. In fact, it might be better if it ISN'T, just because right now, the costs of integration are far higher than the benefits we gain. And it probably will be for a fair while.

i like the idea of it being more integrated but less planet based, not entirely off-planet though.
and with more than just fps mechanics.

maybe swap drones out for clone assault pods, capturing battleship class or larger ships. can gun my turrets while they wait for deployment.

gaining access to stations in null, full takeovers or just hacking/holding the dock for limited station interaction/sabotage(taking
out repair facilities or blocking access to some ships/hanger items, stopping any ships undocking or docking)

outright theft of ships without having to get corp access rights etc, would still need to get a 'skilled' pilot to fly it out though.

EVA fights on the exteriors of stations/titans.

scavengers that board derelict stations and loot them, combat and/or stealth mechanics. brute force rip the items out or mechanic/scientific skills to get better items. requires transportation by pilots.

Dust is a console FPS. Console FPS have about the same lifespan as a mayfly. Intertwining Eve with a game that is going to be effectively dead by the end of the year makes absolutely no sense.

But if a connection must be made let us build the junk they use and get rid of the free stuff and let us scam them trade fairly with them.

I want to comment on this issue, but really, words escape me. Or it could be that I just really don't give a damn.

If DUST mercs (and maybe DUST industrialists?) could build a Death Star that would track me across a system, and DD my ship....maybe then I would care. But as it stands, Planetary Conquest is in one region, that I don't operate in. FW should allow PlanCon, with player corps loyal to each empire allowed to control districts, hold PI tax, etc. The rest of non-FW lowsec should have launched PlanCon with Molden Heath.

And then there is the game itself. It is a trainwreck. Hit detection issues, unbalanced weapons, and I find the UI unintuitive. There are far better shooters out there, and in my humble opinion, newly unveiled IP's that make DUST look like Goldeneye. Titanfall, anyone? And launching at the end of a console's life cycle? Really? CCP has to have had access to PS4 dev kits for awhile. Why even bother at this point?

Now there is the possibility that what we have now, is merely a test on the PS3, and that a far more advanced, and refined version of the game is held firmly under wraps for PS4/PC (maybe using Unreal 4?), especially with Planetside 2 making it's way to PS4, but I don't hold my hopes high, lol. Maybe this shadow PS4/PC version will add the Mechs we were promised, and add PlanCon to both FW and at least the rest of non-FW lowsec to the mix. Maybe we will see the addition of more open world planetary spaces? Or DUST industrialists, who can be harassed by a lone sniper, dropped on a planet by a suicide ganker for double the tears. Or actual urban environments. But who knows?

As of right now, on the apathy meter, DUST is like a 10 out of 10. Doesn't effect me in the slightest.

I say make planetary control matter in null sec, then remove the ability for DUST players to call in an orbital during a PC match unless there is an EVE pilot in space to launch it. Make different percents of planetary control in a constellation a requirement for different levels of sovereignty.

Then, instead of just clone packs being supplied by the planets incorporate all of the planetary commodities into DUST district control. Limit PI in null to only the districts held by the major space alliance, or allow contracts to be placed by EVE pilots to kill PI installations on the planets.

The dust universe doesn't make sense, 32 players in battle suits battle over a control tower, why bother when moon mining is more lucrative? Then you have to ask, why can't we use drones to do the fighting on the ground, does the nyx now have the drone control range to accomplish this?

PC Client for Dust 514 please CCP

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