Missions & Complexes

Definitely....

Make It So



DMC

Its more important to nerf the bots, which is why the loot scatters after the minigame.

Its like going to Tijuana, you need 2 condoms.

I have to admit, I did not find the loot scatter too annoying, at first.

When you do it over and over and have to zoom in and out to get easier clicks and manage to still see stuff and have to mouse over cans to see what they are ... it's starting to drive me slightly insane.

I am pretty sure a bot can't play the hacking game, and as far as rewards. I'd be happier if my ship could automatically grab cans that I have to _target_ first, as in Ctr-Click target, I mean, the same cans that got away before will still get away now, as it cant grab any faster then 1 per cycle, plus on top of that, stuff I targeted will still fly out of range if I don't move etc, I mean, I dont know about you guys, but my brain keeps making me click on cans until they get grabbed as I am never sure I clicked on one or missed it.

I'm just saying that the combined effort of zooming + mouse over checks + clicking + keeping track of colour + having to move AFTER running a hacking mini game seems a TAD excessive.

I'm just saying that some tweaking to the mechanics would be nice.

CCP needs to put the spawned can's in the overview. I have to play with my graphics way down as I use an old PC so its not easy to see. So no fun for me....

I simply find it a bit strange that the level of clicking and moving around is more work then running a logi ship or cleaning up in a Noctis.

I don't want it "easier" if that would mean we would collect too much loot, I just want it "less frantic". For goodness sake, it's like playing Hungry Hungry Hippos half the time.

Would have been more logical:
* We spot a can we want, double-click it, our ship "locks it in" ie marked for retrieval. Lock appears, you KNOW you clicked it. That's it.
* We've locked an incorrect can? now we still need to manually unlock it and mark another one.
* Anything locked but flown out of range - skipped, just like when you try to salvage a can out of range in a Noctis.
* Tractor beam still limited to same speed/distance, so can only get so much.

Result:
* Amount of cans grabbed by a single player - Same
* Amount of frantic mouse spinning, First Person Shooter frantic aiming at stuff - Reduced

So far, I enjoy the mini-game. Whether that will persist with time, or not, remains to be seen. Though after 200-ish sites (i.e. around 1200 mini-games) it hasn't gotten to that point. I would like to see it iterated on, tbh.

I found the loot explosion extremely frustrating until I had my 2nd account follow me around in a Crane (and it's always been around for dual-boxing other exploration sites). With dual-boxing it is quite easy to get all the cans, even the scrap cans, so...meh.

So far only one person spoken as he don't dislike loot bukkake. I hope CCP stuff is smart enough to realize some of their ideas make game worse and this mechanics should be removed to make exploration less unattractive*.

* process of moving bubbles on black screen (a.k.a. "scanning") isn't fun as well - removing it will improve gameplay.

CCP introduced the Noctis and salvage drones to specialize and thrive on tractoring and salvaging wrecks.

We need something similar for hacking.... a ship which automagically locks and tractors in multiple loot cans simultaneously.

It's silly that something like chasing down space garbage even requires human interaction, aren't there computers, robots, and drones in EVE to handle all of the menial tasks like this?

Trying to catch a bunch of quarters before they roll into the sewer hole..........sux.

Agreed; chasing loot cans is annoying as hell. I like the game too but the can chasing has to stop. It's tedious, cluttered, requires more screen space than there is and most of all, it's unnecessary. If it's there just for bots, screw it; why **** us off because joe unnamed want's to cheat. Ban him and let us have fun.

Anyway, I doubt it will be changed. Since Odyssey's release I've probed in high, low and null but I can't stand it anymore. Between the 'loot spew' and trying to position my probes with huge lists of text popping up instantly to block anything I try to do, it's lost any charm it had for me. Hate probing now.