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Collective front launched against the New Order, James315 and miner bumping.

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Lady Areola Fappington
#1041 - 2013-04-10 15:59:26 UTC
Velicitia wrote:


Cool now I just need to roll an alt that isn't hated by the Caldari ... and WTF on these two random-ass stations.

******* hate standings whoring.


I may or may not know folks willing to do some hauling, in support of nefarious purposes.

No need to let some silly things like PVE mechanics stand in the way of shiptoasting!

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Velicitia
XS Tech
#1042 - 2013-04-10 16:31:09 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Velicitia wrote:


Cool now I just need to roll an alt that isn't hated by the Caldari ... and WTF on these two random-ass stations.

******* hate standings whoring.


I may or may not know folks willing to do some hauling, in support of nefarious purposes.

No need to let some silly things like PVE mechanics stand in the way of shiptoasting!


haha, yeah... there are always ways around things. Kinda hard to play both sides though if I can't sell on the market easily, and it'll take a while to get the mining skills anyway (because seriously, sounds like it might be kinda fun avoiding the gank-squads)

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Kali Omega
Diamond Dogs.
Mercenaires Sans Frontieres.
#1043 - 2013-04-10 16:46:10 UTC
Amelia Torez...looking foward to ganking you soon.

You going to start a group to stop us too?
Agent Trask
Doomheim
#1044 - 2013-04-10 17:39:35 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
I'm not sure about that. My karate teacher showed me the neat new block that can block anything. It should work on antimatter, too. Just let me get my headband.


It's called the horizon block.

If you run away, and put the horizon between you and your enemy, he cannot hurt you!

Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.

www.minerbumping.com

Agent Trask
Doomheim
#1045 - 2013-04-10 17:46:05 UTC
Rennseslear X wrote:


if i was a miner, i would pay my 10m, fire up my 2nd acct, head to www.minerbumping.com, learn how to fit a cat, and gank my competition. best of both worlds.


Procurers with ship scanners and passive sensors make the best ganking scouts. They are also in the best position to scoop up loot, and, if fitted with warp stabs, are nearly impossible to kill when fleeing to station while suspect flagged and carrying said loot.

There is no reason you cannot mine and help with enforcement. And do it on the same character.

If you have combat skills, you can also help with our new AWOX effort.

Join the New Order, buy your permit today, and follow the code.

www.minerbumping.com

Brasoveanul
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1046 - 2013-06-21 13:36:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Brasoveanul
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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1047 - 2013-06-21 14:32:49 UTC
LeHerp Aggin wrote:
It's about time someone has stood up to these clowns. They've tried to extort me several times, but to no avail. Noone should interfere with how i want to play Eve in High Sec.



Take this scenario in mind. HE as a player can say the exact same setnece. Nothign can prevent him from playign as he wants in high sec. So..WHy woudl something prevent him to bump you.. since what he wants is ruin your mining?

WHy you dare to think you are more important?

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#1048 - 2013-06-21 22:14:24 UTC
well hello there, collective front thread. nice to see you again.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Celly S
Neutin Local LLC
#1049 - 2013-06-27 14:53:56 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
LeHerp Aggin wrote:
It's about time someone has stood up to these clowns. They've tried to extort me several times, but to no avail. Noone should interfere with how i want to play Eve in High Sec.



Take this scenario in mind. HE as a player can say the exact same setnece. Nothign can prevent him from playign as he wants in high sec. So..WHy woudl something prevent him to bump you.. since what he wants is ruin your mining?

WHy you dare to think you are more important?


That is a perfectly valid comparison....
it's also something that the "i want to play my way" crowd seems to forget too often, "I want to play my way" is a double edged sword that slices in BOTH directions.... :P

So for everyone who wants to "play their way" (within the boundaries of the game's rules and mechanics) feel free to do so by preparing for it and accepting the consequences of it as so many code players have.

This is not to say that I endorse or promote the actions of the suicide gankers in any way, shape or form, it's simply that I 10000000000000% support their right to play that way within the boundaries and guidelines of the game's rules and mechanics as they are intended to be used if they wish to do so.


o/
Celly Smunt

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.

Celly S
Neutin Local LLC
#1050 - 2013-06-27 15:11:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Celly S
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
It gets worse. We TELL our targets exact operations AOs, how to fit to tank, effective ways to avoid ganks, how to get away....the whole nine yards.

They refuse to listen. Gankers are "bad" people, and it'd be "against principal" to do the things we recommend.

So, they get ganked, and bumped, and whinge to CCP to FIXIT. The smart ones are using our shenanigans to get filthy rich, and we love it.



I do have to agree with that, even I have (in this very thread) given people good solid tank fits that while not "ungankable" will be left alone for easier prey 99 times out of 100 and still I see the paper tiger boats out getting torn to shreds by sometimes a single ganker and while I do feel the "ouch" for that miner's loss, I also have the head shaking "dumbarse" comment for them too since no one should ever be able to get ganked by a solo ganker unless they are simply being willfully ignorant, or too damn greedy to protect themselves...
Both Hulks and Mack hulls generally cost more than my entire fully fit skiff and the hulk barely brings in more ore than my skiff does, my Ice hulks now do a decent job of sucking an iceteroid dry, but with less than 10% of the tank of my skiff, it's simply not worth risking that much money on something for an extra couple of m3 or blocks per hour.

o/
Celly

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.

Celly S
Neutin Local LLC
#1051 - 2013-06-27 15:13:38 UTC
oh yeah... nice to see the thread is still going... o/ everyone... miners and bumpers alike.

Celly Smunt

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.

Sir Mack Inawrex
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
#1052 - 2013-06-29 01:58:28 UTC
If only we had more resistances pop up against us. They're always good for a laugh.

"…but now only one beacon of light survives.  A stubborn world that dared to defy Mintchip, Lord of the Lollipops."

Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#1053 - 2013-06-29 04:00:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
We should let this thread die. The Tolero Gaurd surrendered to us months ago.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"

Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
#1054 - 2013-07-03 04:18:19 UTC
Boring
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
#1055 - 2013-07-03 04:35:55 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
LeHerp Aggin wrote:
It's about time someone has stood up to these clowns. They've tried to extort me several times, but to no avail. Noone should interfere with how i want to play Eve in High Sec.



Take this scenario in mind. HE as a player can say the exact same setnece. Nothign can prevent him from playign as he wants in high sec. So..WHy woudl something prevent him to bump you.. since what he wants is ruin your mining?

WHy you dare to think you are more important?



Why is what a woman wants more important than what her rapist wants? He is doing what he wants and nothing stopped him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with suicide tactics and all that, I just don't agree with your point. The consent is not there and it hinders what the other wants.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#1056 - 2013-07-03 05:39:13 UTC
Zero Sum Gain wrote:
rabblerabblerabble


Confirming blowing up idiots in an internet spaceship game is the equivalent of raping somebody IRL.

Roll

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#1057 - 2013-07-03 13:23:37 UTC
Celly S wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
LeHerp Aggin wrote:
It's about time someone has stood up to these clowns. They've tried to extort me several times, but to no avail. Noone should interfere with how i want to play Eve in High Sec.



Take this scenario in mind. HE as a player can say the exact same setnece. Nothign can prevent him from playign as he wants in high sec. So..WHy woudl something prevent him to bump you.. since what he wants is ruin your mining?

WHy you dare to think you are more important?


That is a perfectly valid comparison....
it's also something that the "i want to play my way" crowd seems to forget too often, "I want to play my way" is a double edged sword that slices in BOTH directions.... :P

So for everyone who wants to "play their way" (within the boundaries of the game's rules and mechanics) feel free to do so by preparing for it and accepting the consequences of it as so many code players have.

This is not to say that I endorse or promote the actions of the suicide gankers in any way, shape or form, it's simply that I 10000000000000% support their right to play that way within the boundaries and guidelines of the game's rules and mechanics as they are intended to be used if they wish to do so.


o/
Celly Smunt


The only real rule in EVE is don't **** with Noobs in noob systems. Everything else has some stupid way around it one way or the other.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.

Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#1058 - 2013-07-03 20:42:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
Intar Medris wrote:


The only real rule in EVE is don't **** with Noobs in noob systems. Everything else has some stupid way around it one way or the other.


Like bumping miners, one day, a man named James 315 started bumping miners for hours and hours and received a GM's warning for harassment. So he petitioned it, and was given permission to turn it into a legitimate businesss. After following a GM's suggestion to attach a competitive reason for bumping the miners.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"

Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#1059 - 2013-07-03 21:51:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Intar Medris
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
Intar Medris wrote:


The only real rule in EVE is don't **** with Noobs in noob systems. Everything else has some stupid way around it one way or the other.


Like bumping miners, one day, a man named James 315 started bumping miners for hours and hours and received a GM's warning for harassment. So he petitioned it, and was given permission to turn it into a legitimate businesss. After following a GM's suggestion to attach a competitive reason for bumping the miners.


And bottling. Example ISboxer.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.

Mazlow Shartain
Thin Red Line Industries
#1060 - 2013-07-04 19:32:01 UTC
Zero Sum Gain wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:
LeHerp Aggin wrote:
It's about time someone has stood up to these clowns. They've tried to extort me several times, but to no avail. Noone should interfere with how i want to play Eve in High Sec.



Take this scenario in mind. HE as a player can say the exact same setnece. Nothign can prevent him from playign as he wants in high sec. So..WHy woudl something prevent him to bump you.. since what he wants is ruin your mining?

WHy you dare to think you are more important?



Why is what a woman wants more important than what her rapist wants? He is doing what he wants and nothing stopped him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with suicide tactics and all that, I just don't agree with your point. The consent is not there and it hinders what the other wants.


I love this, so typical of idiotic carebear jabber. Violent carnal knowledge and assault = internet spaceship bumping.

As far as "consent", you consented by logging in.