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Feel free to give your opinion about ISboxer

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Ellen Thrace
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-15 19:56:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ellen Thrace
A small list of the arguments for and against ISboxer:


"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.

"But someone spend real cash on the PLEX they buy with ingame ISK"
Yes, but usually some other player, normally is not the ISboxer, he doesnt need to.

"But it doesnt interfere with your gameplay"
Yes, it interferes with my gameplay when it uses synchronized fire, it can be much more effective than a human alpha strike and win PvP battles with the same numbers, even in Incursions they are using it to win against any fleet.
Plus it completely ruins the Immersion of the game, soon EVE Online will look like an Asian mmo where you rarely see a real player.

"But only a small % of players use ISboxer"
For now maybe, but if this is not dealt with soon, it will spread fast due to the power of this program. Just imagine the distortion of numbers in 0.0 if this is used on a large scale.

"But players have the right to play the game the way they want"
True, but they already have the option to use multiclient, they dont need some program that give them an unfair advantage against the players that dont use external programs.


But in my opinion what is more insidious is that it is against the spirit of Group Play.

We dont want to go back to Single Player Games pre-Internet where you played alone on your PC and used cheat hacks to win the harder games.



Feel free to add your opinion:

“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2013-06-15 19:57:39 UTC
Not this farking thread again!

Also, IBTL.

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2013-06-15 19:58:08 UTC
My opinion is that we don't really need any more threads on the topic cluttering up the place until CCP decides to change their policy.
Lady Areola Fappington
#4 - 2013-06-15 20:02:12 UTC
My opinion is that Tippia's cheekbones give me nightmares.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

ShipToaster
#5 - 2013-06-15 20:05:11 UTC
CCP need to make a deal with isoboxer so we can all get isoboxer by spending plex.

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Black Dranzer
#6 - 2013-06-15 20:05:25 UTC
Okay, somebody want to tell me what ISboxer is and why I should give a ****?
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-06-15 20:18:55 UTC
ShipToaster wrote:
CCP need to make a deal with isoboxer so we can all get isoboxer by spending plex.



Hell Yeah!



The tears would fill the universe haha.
Ellen Thrace
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-15 20:42:49 UTC
Tippia do you mind if I adopt your sig ?

“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”

Dave Stark
#9 - 2013-06-15 20:45:25 UTC
i think it's fine, unlike people who keep making these threads over and over.
Ellen Thrace
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-06-21 12:09:03 UTC
I think it's getting traction.

“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#11 - 2013-06-21 12:11:04 UTC  |  Edited by: DelBoy Trades
Go away, no one cares. Posting in a locked thread.

Quote:
"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.

You clearly have NO idea how the PLEX system works, you are an utter moron.

Edit: I was going to reply to all your other points, but they're all absolute rubbish, do you realise how many PLEX it costs to set up an ISBoxer army? And it's almost unheard of to use ISBoxer in PVP...

Damn nature, you scary!

Ellen Thrace
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-06-21 12:16:36 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Go away, no one cares. Posting in a locked thread.

Quote:
"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.

You clearly have NO idea how the PLEX system works, you are an utter moron.



You did not give your opinion, you are not contributing for this discussion.

“If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”

Louise Antwoord
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-06-21 12:16:38 UTC
Its a botting program and everyone using it are ******** lameasses. imo. Cool
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#14 - 2013-06-21 12:17:38 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Not this farking thread again!

Also, IBTL.

ISBoxer is the new "remove local" it seems :) .
Dave Stark
#15 - 2013-06-21 12:18:49 UTC
Louise Antwoord wrote:
Its a botting program and everyone using it are ******** lameasses. imo. Cool


no it isn't, and that makes you wrong.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#16 - 2013-06-21 12:22:54 UTC
Ellen Thrace wrote:
Feel free to add your opinion:


No.

You can't have it. It's mine, and I'm not sharing it.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.

Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#17 - 2013-06-21 12:24:54 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Louise Antwoord wrote:
Its a botting program and everyone using it are ******** lameasses. imo. Cool


no it isn't, and that makes you wrong.


Actually this is a "automation" software.

It is not a bot per se but it does "automate" the sequence of clicks required to run multiple accounts.

The discussion is similar to argument that Fully automatic rifle is a gun but a semiautomatic rifle is hunting accessory.

It is not a bot that is correct but sure as hell is in the same category ...

Legal or not that is up to CCP to decide but armies of these mining or even PVP sure will mess up the real game play.
In my opinion this should be considered cheating but that is me.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#18 - 2013-06-21 12:33:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Ellen Thrace wrote:
"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.


This is the biggest myth I see perpetuated about multiboxing. If a multiboxer is running ten accounts and he is mining, and getting 5m per hour per account then he's getting 50m per hour. That seems like that's an advantage, except its not... because he is still just getting 5m per hour per account... 5m per hour per account wont help you plex your accounts. Multiboxers don't earn more ISK per hour per account than any normal player. I personally don't even understand why they do it. The fact of the matter is, they don't earn more ISK. Their accounts are just as broke as the rest of ours.

Ellen Thrace wrote:
"But someone spend real cash on the PLEX they buy with ingame ISK"
Yes, but usually some other player, normally is not the ISboxer, he doesnt need to.


See above.

Ellen Thrace wrote:

"But it doesnt interfere with your gameplay"
Yes, it interferes with my gameplay when it uses synchronized fire, it can be much more effective than a human alpha strike and win PvP battles with the same numbers, even in Incursions they are using it to win against any fleet.
Plus it completely ruins the Immersion of the game, soon EVE Online will look like an Asian mmo where you rarely see a real player.


I have fought against people trying to multibox in Pvp. It only works in massive alpha blobs with other players doing the other stuff like scouting and logi. One multiboxer on his own is a dream come true for a PvPer because they're crap and that's a lot of kills. As for incursion fleets see my above arguement. ISK per account... Exactly the same as 1 account.

Ellen Thrace wrote:
"But only a small % of players use ISboxer"
For now maybe, but if this is not dealt with soon, it will spread fast due to the power of this program. Just imagine the distortion of numbers in 0.0 if this is used on a large scale.


It will only ever be a small % because multiboxing is stupid. It doesn't get them an advantage over any other player.

Ellen Thrace wrote:
"But players have the right to play the game the way they want"
True, but they already have the option to use multiclient, they dont need some program that give them an unfair advantage against the players that dont use external programs.


http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/eve_multiboxing_1.jpg

How is this any different?

Edit: Give it a rest FFS. What is wrong with you people?

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-06-21 12:36:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Ellen Thrace wrote:
"ISboxer bring more money to CCP"
No, ISboxers can make so much ingame ISK that they dont need to use real cash to pay their accounts.


The effective income per account is the same as though they were only using 1 account. Regardless of whether they actually pay with money or not, those accounts are ultimately paid for with real money.

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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#20 - 2013-06-21 12:40:57 UTC
Ellen Thrace wrote:
You did not give your opinion, you are not contributing for this discussion.

That is because I've given my opinion on the subject many multiple times in many many multiple threads about the same topic, at what point did you decide you were self-important enough to start your own?

Damn nature, you scary!

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