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Orcas no longer allowed in 3/10 and 4/10

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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#1 - 2013-06-21 04:50:40 UTC
Then why do you put so much ore in those missions? Yes I understand the exploit (which I never used), but there had to be a better fix than this.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2013-06-21 05:10:57 UTC
People use the retriever anyway.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#3 - 2013-06-21 06:36:02 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Then why do you put so much ore in those missions? Yes I understand the exploit (which I never used), but there had to be a better fix than this.


Because any opportunity to wipe out non-null sec income is seized upon by the null sec cartels.

Look what they have done to high sec ice mining, high sec ore mining, and of course T3's in low sec 3/10's and 4/10's.
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.
Dalmont Delantee
Gecko Corp
#4 - 2013-06-21 06:43:36 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Then why do you put so much ore in those missions? Yes I understand the exploit (which I never used), but there had to be a better fix than this.


Because any opportunity to wipe out non-null sec income is seized upon by the null sec cartels.

Look what they have done to high sec ice mining, high sec ore mining, and of course T3's in low sec 3/10's and 4/10's.
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.


*tin foil hat time*

Yes of course, that's what we think and do.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#5 - 2013-06-21 06:45:47 UTC
Dalmont Delantee wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Then why do you put so much ore in those missions? Yes I understand the exploit (which I never used), but there had to be a better fix than this.


Because any opportunity to wipe out non-null sec income is seized upon by the null sec cartels.

Look what they have done to high sec ice mining, high sec ore mining, and of course T3's in low sec 3/10's and 4/10's.
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.


*tin foil hat time*

Yes of course, that's what we think and do.


Shoot the messenger when you can't shoot the message.
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#6 - 2013-06-21 06:46:20 UTC
since it has been patched, can somebody tell me what that exploit was?
Herr Esiq
Viziam
#7 - 2013-06-21 06:48:37 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Then why do you put so much ore in those missions? Yes I understand the exploit (which I never used), but there had to be a better fix than this.


Because any opportunity to wipe out non-null sec income is seized upon by the null sec cartels.

Look what they have done to high sec ice mining, high sec ore mining, and of course T3's in low sec 3/10's and 4/10's.
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.

There is lowsec, which cannot be claimed and doesnt have bubbles. And if you explored a little bit, there are a lot of systems that are empty. For those that arent, you'd be suprised when you talk to someone they are often nice people. Also not everyone wants to ruin their sec status, those who do are easily identifiable.
I dont think they are trying to whipe high sec income out, just fixing some loopholes.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#8 - 2013-06-21 07:04:09 UTC
MicDeath Titan wrote:
since it has been patched, can somebody tell me what that exploit was?


I imagine it was due to the fact that T3s were recently denied access to 3 and 4/10 DED plexes.

Stick T3 in Orca. Take Orca into mission. Unload T3. **** combat plex like old times.
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#9 - 2013-06-21 07:13:55 UTC
Ok, that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why nerf access to these sites? Was it really so bad they were being done a little faster?
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#10 - 2013-06-21 07:18:52 UTC
MicDeath Titan wrote:
Ok, that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is why nerf access to these sites? Was it really so bad they were being done a little faster?


I think it was moreso the crying of people in hisec who had their plex drops ninja'd out from under them by the friendly neighborhood Tengu.

Since you apparently can't ninja someone's plex in anything other than a T3.
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-06-21 07:25:25 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.


Any evidence for that or are you just making **** up?
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-06-21 07:51:40 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Then why do you put so much ore in those missions? Yes I understand the exploit (which I never used), but there had to be a better fix than this.


Because any opportunity to wipe out non-null sec income is seized upon by the null sec cartels.

Look what they have done to high sec ice mining, high sec ore mining, and of course T3's in low sec 3/10's and 4/10's.
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.

If you take a t3 into a hisec site then you don't need to be in hisec taking some poor noobs isk.
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#13 - 2013-06-21 08:12:05 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.


Any evidence for that or are you just making **** up?


Hey. it's Dinsdale, you should know better.

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ACE McFACE
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-21 09:34:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ACE McFACE
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Then why do you put so much ore in those missions? Yes I understand the exploit (which I never used), but there had to be a better fix than this.


Because any opportunity to wipe out non-null sec income is seized upon by the null sec cartels.

Look what they have done to high sec ice mining, high sec ore mining, and of course T3's in low sec 3/10's and 4/10's.
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.

Dinsdale minutes before this post

But seriously, I don't know of any exploit to do with an Orca in those sites so ill leave that be, but if you really need a T3 ship to do 3/10 or 4/10 plexes you're doing it wrong, yes I know they're good at both scanning and combat at the same time, but an Arbitrator or Vexor is pretty much perfect for them without the price tag.

Edit: Also Dinsdale, you know no one takes you seriously when not even people in high sec agree with you.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-06-21 09:45:15 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.


Any evidence for that or are you just making **** up?

Pfft, who needs evidence when you have :tinfoil:? Logic is not the strong suit of the freakishly paranoid conspiracy theorist...just Google 'chemtrails' if you need IRL proof of this.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#16 - 2013-06-21 11:35:48 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Dalmont Delantee wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Then why do you put so much ore in those missions? Yes I understand the exploit (which I never used), but there had to be a better fix than this.


Because any opportunity to wipe out non-null sec income is seized upon by the null sec cartels.

Look what they have done to high sec ice mining, high sec ore mining, and of course T3's in low sec 3/10's and 4/10's.
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.


*tin foil hat time*

Yes of course, that's what we think and do.


Shoot the messenger when you can't shoot the message.


Shooting at a lot of hot air is pointless. It's best to go directly to the source.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#17 - 2013-06-21 11:47:11 UTC
People are still whining about T3s in 4/10s? There are other ships that can still enter them that are perfectly capable of tanking the site, AND deal more damage (thus running the site quicker).

It's not CCP's fault if you're lazy and uncreative.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-06-21 11:55:33 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Then why do you put so much ore in those missions? Yes I understand the exploit (which I never used), but there had to be a better fix than this.


Because any opportunity to wipe out non-null sec income is seized upon by the null sec cartels.

Look what they have done to high sec ice mining, high sec ore mining, and of course T3's in low sec 3/10's and 4/10's.
It is all part of a large campaign to drive more players into null sec, where the cartel leadership control the wallets and taxation, and have more opportunity to skim more off the top for whatever use they want, be in game or otherwise.


The "nullsec cartels" have less than zero interest in this issue.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-06-21 11:56:50 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
People are still whining about T3s in 4/10s? There are other ships that can still enter them that are perfectly capable of tanking the site, AND deal more damage (thus running the site quicker).

It's not CCP's fault if you're lazy and uncreative.


Orcas, not T3s.

Personally I can't think of any obvious reason why Orcas should be excluded for 3/10s and 4/10s. Does anyone know what the "exploit" referred to in the OP was?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-06-21 12:10:38 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
People are still whining about T3s in 4/10s? There are other ships that can still enter them that are perfectly capable of tanking the site, AND deal more damage (thus running the site quicker).

It's not CCP's fault if you're lazy and uncreative.


Orcas, not T3s.

Personally I can't think of any obvious reason why Orcas should be excluded for 3/10s and 4/10s. Does anyone know what the "exploit" referred to in the OP was?

I'd assume storing your ship in one provided a way to bypass the normal ship limitations of the sites.
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