Ships & Modules

An expensive ship cannot teach you what you should have learnt before you sat into said ship. EVE isn't a game where you win by throwing isk into the gear, even a fully pimped multi-billion investment can be killed by a single T1 ship if its pilot is good.



Just because you know the fit doesn't mean you know how it performs. Take for instance this ship:

[Merlin, Blasters]
Magetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Medium Shield Extender II
1MN Afterburner II

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Ancilllary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


How do you fly this ship in a frigate roam?

get in close, scramble, shoot?

1- no, this is a false perception. Then don't expect at Jita, being Caldari main train hub, to see more Amarr hulls than at Amarr it self.

2- Because of very few things either you don't take the time to analyze or someone else bothers to explain. These ships are not in every possible term or adjective the best tool to achieve whatever they do, however they have some stuff going on for them that makes their gameplay perception easier for newer or lower skilled pilots, kitting games are the preferred ones no matter which game you play the highest number of players and classes played are kitting or kitting able classes, that's why.
Eve is no exception for this and Caldari while not being the best kitting race has decent ships to achieve this, those are not the highest dps ones or the fastest but they can do the job perfectly well if you do it right.

3-again it's a personal perception based on the simple fact of current doctrines. 1v1 how the heck would you ever take a 400dps Caracal over a 1K Brutix? -1st because one kites the other don't, second because when you start stacking numbers doesn't matter your 150man fleet Brutix does one bazillion DPS, if they can't apply it before they get killed then Caracal is superior in every single term.

Heavy Missiles got a huge nerf stick over them, far too high as nerf while still being in the same dps range and application than other weapon systems at one exception: dmg is not instant and thus deserve a buff to that one or ships using them a rof bonus.

Ham's became finally usable, was time, blasters always dished high amounts of dps but their problem is range, ham's had range and dps problems, no they're really on the line with other weapon systems, maybe a slight decrease inbase launcher ROF wouldn't hurt very much and make them more in line (imho those are ok, it's rather the other SR weapon systems in need of buffs)

Need to talk about cruise missiles? -I remember inventing T2 HM's by dozens and get laugh because I was doing it for cruises, now my T2 HM bpc's are worth of NOTHING but my cruise ones became pretty interesting (building cost a bit high imho)

Torps: heck I can fit a single TE on my megathron an hit for 40km without Fall off bonus, I can hit over 70km full dmg with large autos at this range and I'm in perfect optimal range with large pulse lasers but I can't do it with torps?
Lack of a hull with a huge speed/flight time bonus for torps.

Light Missiles: unless you're using a Navy Caracal with Rapid lights or Navy Drake those suck, jesus they suck ass so hard I can't even explain it.

Rockets: they got a little bit better, actually they do decent dmg but they still lack of something I can't put my finger on maybe because I don't use them much over other weapon systems, that's it.

In the end imho your perception about "missiles everywhere" is a bit biased because of current doctrines and the fact the majority of players concentration of all high sec together is Caldari space where Guristas do'nt really care about thermal/explosive or EM dmg, thus missiles being the best option for them but not the best overall in the game.

While I agree missiles are top notch in some scenarios...I'm curious, how do you come to that broad statement? Please elaborate.

Tengu, Raven, and Drake basically is pve in easy mode(if you don't like drones).
Especially after the TE nerf, turret boats are becoming less effective in pve unless you go navy/pirate.
In pvp it tends to be the other way around, but missiles are viable still. (Condor and Hawk for example.)

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That the top two ships on eve-kill are HM ships argues otherwise. You are though correct about the range advantages. Notice that the ships sitting on top have 10% missile range bonuses.


Yes, this is why Talwars are not in the top-20. Noone wants to use light missiles. Or tech I light missiles for that matter. And of course no one is using rockets. Again the 10% per level range bonuses are way too weak.

Which accounts for all the Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II here. http://eve-kill.net/?a=top20

Oh hell where did it go? What is that, Heavy Missile Launcher II? How did it get there?

Except that you cannot make a difference in those statistics with your piloting. Turrets you can directly affect tracking by piloting to reduce transversal.

Forget everything you know from other games and your learning curve will be much better, and you won't lose so much ISK doing dumb sh*t.