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Unprobable ships -do they still exist ??
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Glarrion
Minner Alliance
#1 - 2011-11-07 16:57:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Glarrion
i back to eve after over 1.5 year - i heard that in meantime they changed some about ECCM's etc. Questiuon - itss still possible to be uprobable by puting modules on ship ?
Dark Pangolin
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#2 - 2011-11-07 17:03:16 UTC
It is still possible to be "Virtualy" unprobabble...i.e. only someone with max skills implants and patience could find you...but no you can not be completely unprobable
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#3 - 2011-11-07 17:31:09 UTC
Dark Pangolin wrote:
It is still possible to be "Virtualy" unprobabble...i.e. only someone with max skills implants and patience could find you...but no you can not be completely unprobable


This. You can use the same 'unprobable" fits you were using, it just caps your effective ratio just barely inside the probing window. So, a max-skilled and implanted prober with full sisters gear in a probing bonus can still find you, but they're not exactly in every system.
AdZc
Legio Prima Victrix
#4 - 2011-11-07 18:35:15 UTC
In short, no.
Glarrion
Minner Alliance
#5 - 2011-11-07 20:33:32 UTC
so the eccm dont stack anymore ? or so - is there any fit for a tengu that is qute hard to scan ?
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#6 - 2011-11-07 20:51:57 UTC  |  Edited by: mxzf
Glarrion wrote:
so the eccm dont stack anymore ? or so - is there any fit for a tengu that is qute hard to scan ?


No, ECCMs still work as normal. The only difference is that instead of being able to have a >1.08 ratio, they just limit the probing formula so that it acts like no matter what, doesn't go over 1.07 (or something around there). You can still have as high a sensor strength as you want, the probing formula simply acts like it never goes over 1.07 strength:sig ratio.

Edit: Meaning that the exact same fits from before simply went from "unprobable" to "realistically unprobable, even though it's theoretically possible".
Glarrion
Minner Alliance
#7 - 2011-11-07 22:34:01 UTC
thats fine :)