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New Players left out. Drones V is unfair.

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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#21 - 2013-06-21 02:24:46 UTC
Invisusira wrote:
5 days of training is literally nothing.


No, 5 days of training is literally 5 days of training.

Katrina Oniseki

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#22 - 2013-06-21 02:25:38 UTC
Black Dranzer wrote:
Invisusira wrote:
5 days of training is literally nothing.

No, 5 days of training is literally 5 days of training.


Figures... I scroll down after posting and see he typed the same exact thing too.

Katrina Oniseki

Black Dranzer
#23 - 2013-06-21 02:26:14 UTC
Moon Mare Night
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-06-21 03:05:36 UTC
Setaceous wrote:
Ari Laveran wrote:
OP I see what you did there. The posters above me seem to have missed it.

I didn't miss it. I simply don't care for people that can't come right out and say what they mean. The OP has a great future as a politician or a lawyer though.



So you saw his name huh? K. You're cute.
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#25 - 2013-06-21 03:15:20 UTC
Moon Mare Night wrote:
Setaceous wrote:
Ari Laveran wrote:
OP I see what you did there. The posters above me seem to have missed it.

I didn't miss it. I simply don't care for people that can't come right out and say what they mean. The OP has a great future as a politician or a lawyer though.



So you saw his name huh? K. You're cute.

Nooooo. That's not it.
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#26 - 2013-06-21 03:30:52 UTC
Don't feed this horrible troll.
Jeffrey Asher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-06-21 03:34:18 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.

Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.

Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.

It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.


This is an emotional crisis for many new players.



It's not an emotional crisis, I've been playing for a month and prioritized getting Drones 5 trained early so I could use 5 drones at once. Why not just give everyone medium guns and racial cruiser as well from the start, so we can use a cruiser straight away and aren't scarred forever?

Drone envy is not pretty.

The power to cause pain is the only power that matters, the power to kill and destroy, because if you can't kill then you are always subject to those who can, and nothing and no one will ever save you.

Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
#28 - 2013-06-21 03:36:08 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.

Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.

Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.

It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.


This is an emotional crisis for many new players.



If you "feel bad" about your lack of drone prowess around those older, better-endowed drone pilots... you could always just fly a non-drone ship until you get those skills trained up. Or possibly just avoid drone ships forever, because even flying 5 drones doesn't make you feel sexy like the big boys once you realize that that other guy has drones that are stronger, faster, tougher, and shinier than yours - because he's spent months on training even more drone skills.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2013-06-21 05:21:20 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
having +5 targets instantaneously on the overview when you already have targets up can be a ***** to lock up on anything bigger than a frig, +3 makes more sense, and sounds a LOT easier to balance when it comes to EWAR. nerfing chance based effects such as jams, and buffing up TP, Webs, etc.

Or maybe you should just make overviews that don't have drones in them, and separate tabs for overview configurations that include drones.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-06-21 05:22:04 UTC
And yeah, this thread isn't actually about drones at all.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Jeffrey Asher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-06-21 05:55:07 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
And yeah, this thread isn't actually about drones at all.

The subtleties are going over my head due to my newness. Could you please enlighten me as to the hidden, or perhaps not so hidden to those who know, meaning?

regards,

The power to cause pain is the only power that matters, the power to kill and destroy, because if you can't kill then you are always subject to those who can, and nothing and no one will ever save you.

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2013-06-21 05:58:06 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
CCP should change the way the "Drones" skill works.

Set the base number of drones controllable to 5.

Have the skill just increase the damage by 20% per level.

It really feels bad to be a low SP player in a fleet with older players and only being able to launch two drones.


This is an emotional crisis for many new players.


GTFO

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Stinglock Sigma
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2013-06-21 07:24:58 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:

GTFO


NOU
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#34 - 2013-06-21 08:08:22 UTC
Jeffrey Asher wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
And yeah, this thread isn't actually about drones at all.

The subtleties are going over my head due to my newness. Could you please enlighten me as to the hidden, or perhaps not so hidden to those who know, meaning?

regards,


OP is incredibly angry that they took Nestle's Crunch bars out of the vending machine at school.

This post isn't about everyone needing 5 drones. It's about everyone needing free candy bars.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2013-06-21 08:23:37 UTC
Jeffrey Asher wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
And yeah, this thread isn't actually about drones at all.

The subtleties are going over my head due to my newness. Could you please enlighten me as to the hidden, or perhaps not so hidden to those who know, meaning?

regards,

I'm awful with sarcasm.
I think you're being sarcastic, so chances are you actually aren't. But I'll take that chance.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Charlie Jacobson
#36 - 2013-06-21 08:41:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Charlie Jacobson
I've had drones 5 on trial accounts. What's the problem? Most frigates can't even fit 5 drones, and frigates are what you're supposed to be flying as a new player.

EDIT: Why do you troll me like this, op? imad. Pirate
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-06-21 08:57:41 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:


This is an emotional crisis for many new players.


LOL!

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

Marmaduke Hatplate
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-06-21 10:05:01 UTC
New player here, love drones, wish I could name them (though I also realise that's not far off being as pointless as naming my bullets lol), and I am currently just 5 short hours away from Drones 5. Yes, 3 days ago I thought 'hm, I'd better start thinking about my long-term drone prospects.

Now when I look back across the mists of antiquity to the halcyon times of, er, Tuesday, I wish I could let that bright-eyed youngster meet the stooped veteran of today and congratulate him on his fsr-sightedness. That mature-beyond-his-years rookie of the day before the day before yesterday made an investment, and three whole days later, it is paying off.

Drones 5. You gotta play the Long Game.

In 6 hours, I will start Drone Interface training, and enter my cryogenics chamber to wait until the sun dies, or next month, whichever comes sooner.

"Friends and fun...The only 2 really important things in EVE Online." - Crazy Dutch Guy

CCP Falcon
#39 - 2013-06-21 10:09:16 UTC
Quote:
New Players left out. Drones V is unfair.


No one ever promised that EVE was going to be fair. The odds are stacked against you, and you have to train to overcome them.

The Drones skill has functioned this way for the last decade. Training it to V like everyone else will enable people to field 5 drones.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

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AlphaOperative Altren
Alternative Rendition
#40 - 2013-06-21 10:13:32 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
This is an emotional crisis for many new players.


This line makes me happy

Nobody ever figures out what life is all about, and it doesn't matter. Explore the world. Nearly everything is really interesting if you go into it deeply enough. ― Richard P. Feynman