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Year old player with no Battleclinic-Killboard record whatsoever?

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#21 - 2013-06-21 00:29:15 UTC
What does your corp do? If I wanted to join a PvP corp, I'd spend a couple of months before hand killing everything I could target before applying. Did you get a partial API key? Might want to... I have several alts on one account with decent SP that are just for logistics and market stuff. They all support my main. I would bet I'm not the only one that does that. If it's a combat char it will show up on some killboards... just Google his/her name, "killboard" and "eve" and if something doesn't come up, I'd say they never killed another player. Whatever that means...

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dark heartt
#22 - 2013-06-21 00:39:32 UTC
Borg Probe wrote:
Is that the only reason? If so, then perhaps nothing to worry about. I just haven't ever seen anyone never appear on Battleclinic before, let alone one with an old account. Seemed suspicious to me, like they had a griefing history, and somehow managed to find a way to conceal it


My first account still doesn't show up on Battleclinic because I never did any PvP with it, or lost a ship with it. It's certainly not unheard of.
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-06-21 00:43:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Theodoric Darkwind
It is quite possible that he has never done any PvP. You might check eve-kill for any kills/losses too since it is more commonly used than BC.

Remember somebody will only show up on a killboard if either a) the person who got the killmail posts it to a killboard, b) the person who lost a ship posts their lossmail, or c) either party has an api set up either individually or at the corp/alliance level to automatically pull kills.
Invisusira
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#24 - 2013-06-21 00:50:36 UTC
check eve-kill yo

that's like saying "I can't find this web site and I've asked jeeves like fifteen times now"
Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-06-21 04:17:56 UTC
I wonder if I'm a spy...

:(
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-06-21 05:14:58 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Borg Probe wrote:
Seemed suspicious to me, like they had a griefing history, and somehow managed to find a way to conceal it

Perhaps. It's possible to do. They just couldn't have any API that gives access to their combat record, their corporation's combat record, or their victims' combat records or their victims' corporations' combat records on any public killboard. They and their victims would also have to refrain from posting any kills manually.

Of course this is all a moot point since you can explicitly ask for that person's API key with this information and find it yourself. You can't really hide kill records from an API key (well you can, but you would also know that they were being hidden). If you could possibly generate an API key that showed you as having no kills or losses while concealing the actual truth, this would probably be termed an exploit.

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-06-21 07:05:49 UTC
Borg Probe wrote:
There's a player that joined a friend's corp recently who's been in eve for over a year and yet Battleclinic-Killboard has no record of the person even existing.


Ask for full API access, it's better to be safe then sorry, and this character could be a alt only trained for corp infiltration.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#28 - 2013-06-21 11:44:21 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
What a coincidence....I have about 12 alts that are over a year old and dont show up on battleclinic....

Come to think of it....I think 1 of them just recently joined a corp....

Im sure its fine.


Purely coincidental I'm sure.

These are not the alts you're looking for.

*Jedi hand-wave*

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2013-06-21 12:11:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Borg Probe wrote:
Hey,

There's a player that joined a friend's corp recently who's been in eve for over a year and yet Battleclinic-Killboard has no record of the person even existing... Any thoughts? I have reason to suspect the persons motives for joining but can't find a single trace of his name or anything close to it on Battleclinic. Anyone know why this could be?



from zkillboard

•Why can't I share my API on multiple killboards?
One Character. One Key. One Killboard.

Unfortunately CCP doesn't have a proper caching scheme when it comes to pulling kills with their API. If multiple killboards attempt to pull the information only the first killboard to pull will get a result, the others will get a 119 error code. It doesn't matter if you create multiple API keys for the same character, the same problem will persist. There is nothing we can do about this.

For corporations this problem is easy to get around: Use multiple directors and have them each create a key for a killboard. For example: Bossman [CEO] could create an API key that he posts on zKB, then Bossman's Minion [Director] could create an API key to use on a personal killboard.
Ekhss Nihilo
Dominion.
Sigma Grindset
#30 - 2013-06-21 15:07:12 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Because he's been carebearing and has never lost a ship or killed anyone else?


My experience as a relatively new player suggests that the only way to avoid losing a ship is to never undock.

"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180)

Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-06-21 15:26:36 UTC
It's not unthinkable that a toon would not have a battleclinic record for a year. But, as a CEO I would find it highly suspicious.

What you can do is compare his SP to expected SP. See if there is any discrepancy. If there is it may indicate a period of inactivity. Use google to find out if there are any posts with his name. Examine public contract history for anything "weird". Make sure you have fill api and examine it thoroughly.

If the guy is a spai or has other motives you can get a sense of it. The worst thing that can happen is you make a mistake and boot the guy. So what?

When I'm examining a toon for recruitment I always go with my gut feeling. Spies and thieve generally have a disinterest in the corp their in, use excuses why they can't do something, like committing assets, participation. Their API will generally demonstrate a disinterest in playing the game.....not because they're disinterested but only with that toon.

Also, go a general search for killboards on google using his name. Not everyone uses BC. If the toon isn't looking for PVP then it's up to anyone that's killed him to post to BC. Personally, I use eve-kill.

OF course, you'll never know one way or the other if the spy/thief is a true professional at his craft. Then again, that you're asking in GD, you're corp probably isn't rich/high profile enough for a real pro. No offense.

Don't ban me, bro!

Beltze Sorgin
BSSLD Explorations
#32 - 2013-06-21 16:13:09 UTC
I never post my kills on Battleclinic. "Security is not a dirty word Blackadder." Smile
Ariel Dawn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-06-21 16:24:13 UTC
The vast majority of the game could care less about killboards, easiest way to get to the core of your issue is simply asking the person. They've ever never actually died, don't care about posting mails, or are an internet super hacker.
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#34 - 2013-06-21 19:43:31 UTC
Borg Probe wrote:
Pretty suspect though right? Even a dedicated carebear dies. Only someone that's never left station could pull that off. Seems exceptionally odd.


Apparently you were never a dedicated carebear. It is pretty easy to avoid entanglements in this game if all you want to do is carebear.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#35 - 2013-06-21 19:59:26 UTC
Borg Probe wrote:
Pretty suspect though right? Even a dedicated carebear dies. Only someone that's never left station could pull that off. Seems exceptionally odd.

I got an alt who is 5 years old and has no kill or death despite doing quite a bit of flying. Even in Jita. Two others are over a year old, same record. Its not hard, just be a bit paranoid and do the PvP of pilots who trained for it.

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Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-06-21 20:37:46 UTC
http://zkillboard.com/character/1523983950/

mine is clean and empty

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ISD Alliance
#37 - 2013-06-21 22:14:05 UTC
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