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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#81 - 2013-06-20 16:29:17 UTC
Ah yes, never underestimate the ability of capsuleers to get into pissing contests over only tangentially related topics.
Sofia Roseburn
Verdant Inquiries
#82 - 2013-06-20 16:33:52 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
I look forward to a long and vicious rivalry between DUTY and DUTY(dot). May you blot out the IGS with your sniping.


Well there can be only one (it's the real DUTY).
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#83 - 2013-06-20 16:34:52 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

Let's look at those kill records, shall we?

Fake Duty lifetime achievement record: 1120 kills totalling 53.3B ISK

Duty. lifetime achievement record: 5813 kills totalling 374.66B ISK

Which puts genuine-flavour Duty ahead with a kill ratio of roughly 5:1 and an ISK ratio of roughly 7:1.

Stay rectum-troubled.


Now, now Mr. Ixiris no need to project your own predilections as a rectal aficionado upon others.

Anyone can really pull the numbers up and compare the record of your esteemed organization since March compared with the Combine when it actually began operations if they want an accurate comparison of current capabilities against each other (Much less flattering for your own I think). I don't need to bring up the numbers, because I already know I and those I have the honour to fight and die beside are better than you could ever hope to achieve.

You are after all the man whose entire career as a capsuleer has been nothing more than one abject failure after another. The man who proudly played profiteer in the FDU when the times were good, so much so as to make your proud boasts about occupying Hallanen with your "sister corp" (Which I might add only because your own was so pitifully incompetent by comparison) and then, when it is recaptured barely two weeks later you ran so fast with your tail between your legs not even Roden himself could pin the medal to your chest that others with more spine in the Federation could accomplish.

That just the latest entry in your long resume of proud incompetence.

What care should I have for a man of so little talent or conviction? Your cries of "Fake Duty" mean little to me, for indeed, any Caldari who flies alongside such a washed-up has-been (Or rather is that nothing-been?) like yourself certainly isn't an organization I would ever want to emulate - but in the least I can find succour in the fact that the apparent consternation it must cause you, so vehement are you to raise it any and all opportunity, gladdens my heart for in the least it means I have to do so little, such as I am here amused drinking my vodka writing this, to grant you the derision and scorn you so richly deserve.

May you live a long life, Mr. Ixiris, so that I at least may continue to draw the comforts and amusements of you, the resident Emperor with No Clothes of the IGS.

Have a nice day.

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Anslo
Scope Works
#84 - 2013-06-20 16:40:49 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
What care should I have for a man of so little talent or conviction?

You cared enough to reply and offer your scorn.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2013-06-20 16:41:50 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
too long didn't read

Clearly you care at least enough to continue derailing this thread.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Sofia Roseburn
Verdant Inquiries
#86 - 2013-06-20 16:42:19 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
What care should I have for a man of so little talent or conviction?

You cared enough to reply and offer your scorn.


If I had to hazard a guess I'd say you're mistaking caring for a very different emotion.
Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#87 - 2013-06-20 16:44:39 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
but in the least I can find succour in the fact that the apparent consternation it must cause you, so vehement are you to raise it any and all opportunity, gladdens my heart for in the least it means I have to do so little, such as I am here amused drinking my vodka writing this, to grant you the derision and scorn you so richly deserve.
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You were doing pretty well -- sick burn and so forth -- up until this bit. "I'm only responding to you because it's ever so droll" is something I'd advise redacting in the future, as an accredited smartass. Just stick with the actual insults, which are first-class, really.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2013-06-20 16:47:54 UTC
Andrea Okazon wrote:
Just stick with the actual insults, which are first-class, really.

You must have very low standards.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Sofia Roseburn
Verdant Inquiries
#89 - 2013-06-20 16:49:31 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Andrea Okazon wrote:
Just stick with the actual insults, which are first-class, really.

You must have very low standards.


Better to have some than none!
Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#90 - 2013-06-20 17:29:16 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Andrea Okazon wrote:
Just stick with the actual insults, which are first-class, really.

You must have very low standards.


Being deficient in bile, I enjoy the taste.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#91 - 2013-06-20 17:56:21 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
too long didn't read

Clearly you care at least enough to continue derailing this thread.


Responding when somebody offers insult is hardly an unforeseeable outcome. The last time *I* checked the word 'Duty' was a noun, and one that was popular throughout the cluster. It's hardly surprising that an organisation such as ours would make use of it - especially when it was available at the time of our founding.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#92 - 2013-06-20 22:05:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
One of the corporations is called Duty.

The other is called Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A.

I don't give a bent frak about the tickers, especially not when they're unrelated to the name of the corporation in any way. Pyre Falcon Defence Combine taking the ticker [DUTY] is about as relevant as the fact that Subdreddit's ticker is [B3RT].

I'll go by names.

And come to think of it, what in all the good things of infinity is a "pyre falcon"?

Want to know what I think? I think the whole spat is pure ego, which Pyre Falcon possess in far too great amounts, to the point of hubris.So how about let's drop it and get back on topic.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#93 - 2013-06-20 22:28:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Anslo wrote:
To be honest dude, if you really knew you were a better combat pilot or whatever, you wouldn't need to defend your abilities with words or numbers or posts. You'd just go out and prove it.

That's assuming I had something I needed to prove (which Pyre-Falcon clearly do, because otherwise they wouldn't have interrupted a completely unrelated conversation just to grandstand). I'm just writing stuff I know will irritate them because making human refuse upset is ****ing hilarious.


You're clearly missing the point that the pilot you responded to FLIES FOR NATION AND NOT PYRE FALCON.

Actually, reading on, you're not the only one who missed that point. YOU were the one who started throwing around the insults and making brag. I thought you'd changed sides and were now flying for the State? We don't act like this towards our own - your CEO ought to have counselled you ALREADY. I'm not sure that you're emotionally suitable to serve the State Protectorate, Andreus - and your blanket insults that include me certainly haven't impressed me.

As for you, Verin Haakatain. Now that you're done lecturing everyone on Hubris, why don't you go back to speaking for the whole Loyalist capsuleer movement and telling everyone how to be the perfect Caldari? Whilst living predominantly in the territory of a declared enemy?

Heth will be GONE soon and you are all not going to have the excuse of HIM to explain away your actions. Honestly. Sometimes you ALL disgust me.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#94 - 2013-06-20 23:04:46 UTC
I seem to recall that just last month you valued my opinion. What changed and why, Suuolo?

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#95 - 2013-06-20 23:11:03 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
I seem to recall that just last month you valued my opinion. What changed and why, Suuolo?


Let's do this in private, Verin. We should talk.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#96 - 2013-06-20 23:33:32 UTC
If I may? Virtue can sometimes become vice. Pride is a noble thing, but at its furthest reaches it causes enmity where there need be none.

So long as we serve the same values and the same State, I see no reason for conflict between us.

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Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#97 - 2013-06-21 00:12:21 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
I look forward to a long and vicious rivalry between DUTY and DUTY(dot). May you blot out the IGS with your sniping.


That whole NCNCDOTCIS thing had me so terribly confused for such a terribly long time, particularly when one of them was actually down in, you know, the south and the other one was, well you know, obliterated. Intentional irony, not intentional irony, a plot by the obliterators...?

No really, when is Heth joining Goonswarm? They could burn Jita with feeling; or, something.

Alizabeth darling, are you still here? I should write a letter.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2013-06-21 08:09:20 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Actually, reading on, you're not the only one who missed that point. YOU were the one who started throwing around the insults and making brag. I thought you'd changed sides and were now flying for the State? We don't act like this towards our own - your CEO ought to have counselled you ALREADY. I'm not sure that you're emotionally suitable to serve the State Protectorate, Andreus - and your blanket insults that include me certainly haven't impressed me.

Let's examine here, Pieter.

I merged Mixed Metaphor's current active roster into Duty because Toushi Kimura, the man who runs it, is a long-time personal friend of mine and he is - by my own admission - better at managing large groups of people over a long period than I am - in his words, which I absolutely agree with, I make a better fleet commander than a CEO. Also, just so that we're clear on this, I was invited to join Duty - I did not ask or beg. Duty joined the State Protectorate as a warm-up exercise for pilots just returning to active service, and nothing more. The positively abysmal attitude of basically every pilot who flies under the State Protectorate flag for any significant length of time absolutely precluded any long-term arrangement of that kind - as evidenced by the ****** behaviour of pretty much everyone in your corporation other than yourself, and increasingly, you too. I just happened to join while the corporation was still working for it, which is why for five presumably glorious days the IGS got to freak out and speculate about me having the rank of Protectorate Ensign.

Skip forward a few weeks and I make a statement on behalf of Duty about the CEP and Heth, regarding Duty's willingness to assist capsuleers loyal to the State in returning Heth to CEP custody. This was not even a case of "we'll help you whether you like it or not!" This was simply a case of "we will help if it's needed." Duty is an 81-pilot corporation with an excellent active-to-inactive member ratio. Some corporations would find that calibre of assistance useful.

Along comes Veikitamo Gesakaarin - your corporation's very own bastard child of Gosakumori Noh and Jade Constantine - and starts throwing unveiled insults at both myself and the corporation and bragging about how awesome her corporation is in comparison to ours. When called upon this she becomes geometrically more defensive, insulting and neurotic. Clearly the woman has insecurities you'd need a station hangar to store safely. If anyone needs counselling it's probably her.

Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
As for you, Verin Haakatain. Now that you're done lecturing everyone on Hubris, why don't you go back to speaking for the whole Loyalist capsuleer movement and telling everyone how to be the perfect Caldari? Whilst living predominantly in the territory of a declared enemy?

It's pretty goddamn amusing that even with that handicap he still manages to do a better job of it than any member of your corporation.

Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Heth will be GONE soon and you are all not going to have the excuse of HIM to explain away your actions. Honestly. Sometimes you ALL disgust me.

O physician, heal thyself!

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#99 - 2013-06-21 08:16:51 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
...Veikitamo Gesakaarin - your corporation's very own bastard child of Gosakumori Noh and Jade Constantine...


So what you're saying is that she's a near perfect woman?

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2013-06-21 08:18:35 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
So what you're saying is that she's a near perfect woman?

I... uh...

Well.

You either have a very skewed definition of perfection or a very low opinion of women.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.