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Machariel - active or passive tank for mission only ?
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Malwadas Kadmos
Make-EVE-Great-Again
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#1 - 2013-06-20 21:31:20 UTC
hi,
i have been looking arround a bit for a good machariel fitting and iam not sure if i should go for an active or an passive tank.
i will only use it for level 4 missions, the passiv tank would be a lot cheaper but i cant fit an ab there ... maybe someone of u got experience with a good fitting for missions and could help me here.

i created 2 fittings with EFT:
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-19784816/machariel_fitting.jpg.html

what would you improve ? or am i completely wrong this way ?

iam grateful for all suggestions!
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-06-20 23:40:08 UTC
I haven't flown a Mach after odyssey but this is simular to my fit

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/61131-Machariel-PVE.html
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-06-21 01:20:54 UTC
once you buy and fit that machariel, be sure to tell us where you mission so we can come take a look.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#4 - 2013-06-21 02:10:35 UTC
that bc linked fit is pretty similar to mine, only I use a cap injector and have a t2 rate of fire rig. I usually carry 4 sentry drones and 5 scouts. although vs angels berserkers are usually best as they like to get close.

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Bigg Gun
T.I.E. Inc.
#5 - 2013-06-21 02:21:44 UTC
the first , except I have CCC rig and 2 falloff rigs, no damage control (4th gyro) and a mwd instead of a AB. But these are of course just cosmetics. Truth is, in the case of the mach, your DPS is your tank. You kill most stuff before they can shoot at you.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-21 02:54:34 UTC
You never passive tank a mach, also those faction autocannons are not worth it, just use meta4 if you cant use t2

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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-21 03:10:26 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
You never passive tank a mach, also those faction autocannons are not worth it, just use meta4 if you cant use t2


This is good advice. I figured it would be easier to link a standard fit. Also make sure it has an afterburner. Part of the tank is it's speed.
Whitehound
#8 - 2013-06-21 07:51:52 UTC
What speaks against your passive tank fit is that you need good tracking, or speed, or range, to counter frigates. And all three are missing.

Tanking is only the second priority in missions. The first priority in missions is to kill stuff and this should reflect in how many modules you use for each task. All together have you used 12 modules for making a passive tank, which is too much.

The faster you kill the less damage you take. Put damage first and whatever it takes to put the damage onto your targets, then use as little tank as necessary to survive.

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Malwadas Kadmos
Make-EVE-Great-Again
NO NEED LOOSE FACE
#9 - 2013-06-21 09:46:10 UTC
alright thanks for all the advice!