EVE New Citizens Q&A

you can give it to me.

Please do yourself a favor and spend it all on strippers and beer. As a new player (or even a seasoned vet) DO NOT believe any scheme that promises to "make your ISK work for you." Scamming is an art form here. MD (Market Discussion) has a history of people that have community trust, a solid history, and pass audits that still scam billions.

If you want something to do with your ISK that >might< make you a profit, I suggest station trading. It can be difficult, but given your starting point you don't really need that much profit. If prices move 1% you've netted 10m for basically nothing. Of course, if they move 1% in the wrong direction then you lose. No such thing as easy money.

Buying and selling stuff on contracts, like faction modules, can also be profitable. You have to pay attention to going prices, since there aren't any pretty graphs to keep track. That's actually a benefit, because it makes it harder to see where the price ought to be.

Since you're a new player, I'd recommend you do one of 2 things. Either:

1) Read every guide you can find on the markets and how to use them to make profits

2) Buy 900m worth of a very stable asset (certain minerals come to mind) in Jita and ignore it while you train skills to do what you actually want to do, and go through the newbie friendly parts of that. Then, after you know your stuff, you've got a nice nest egg to buy something shiny with.

If neither of these are what you're looking for, just contract the ISK to me and I'll send you 2B back in 3 months. Guaranteed.

For some strange reason I feel a little reluctant to advice you on how to compete successful with me.

It's a bad idea to be looking to invest in *someone*. *something* is much better. Even still, you will need to determine the time investment you're prepared to put in. The "career investing" takes a lot of work, even the kind of station trading that can net you billions upon billions of isk.

That said, check your local market, figure out the local trade hub (it could be very minor, but should be less than 5 jumps away from you.) Browse the market for low meta items that are relatively moderate value, but have no buy orders. Put up very low buy orders (maybe 50% jita buy order prices or lower) with a range you're willing to travel (check how close the nearest lowsec is) and just let the orders sit. Being the only buy order in the region/area you won't have any competition. They are low volume items so you won't have to deal with competition much, thus won't have to babysit your orders (once a week should be plenty.) You're buying at low enough, you'll turn a profit by the end. You're spread out into enough different products, one of them tanking won't wipe you out (oh yeah, spread out in as many things as you can.)

The upside boils down to this being a good holding strategy (orders expire in 3 months.) It takes very little work to maintain after your initial setup. It lets you dump your spare isk somewhere safe while you're doing other things.

The downside is that this is not a huge money maker. Some of your orders will expire with only a little product purchased. Depending on the area, you could have to visit lots and lots of stations to pick everything up before hauling to jita to sell. You may find it hard to sink a full billion into it because you're dealing with such cheap items. It's a slow project, not that great isk/day compared to more proactive activities.

Still, with all it's ups and downs, this is a great way to park isk that's in excess of your lifestyle needs.

Anything that looks too good to be true probably isn't. Remember that there's really no repercussions to scammers. EVE has no Jail and you can't get knee capped.

Just stocking a few good ships can eat into 1 billion. I'd recommend keeping the 1 BN. Set aside 400 M to blow on gear and then have the 600 MM as backup fund.

If you just try marketing or BPO purchasing your experimentation will devour that savings with little profit. Better to find out what you like to do, play it safe for awhile then if you really do like something like say Marketing then you can invest it with more wisdom.

The sharks are out there, double check you math and never trust anyone when it comes to your isk.

You'll find a million corps out there that will have you. Really you should ask yourself what your looking for and then join the recruitment channel or forums.

My corp for example is a role-play corp with story driven goals. There's PVP, 0.0, industrial, casual corps ect.

I have found these questions helpful to have answered for yourself first:

1) Do I want a small or large corp? (why join a corp if you're alone all the time?)
2) Do I want to be involved in PVP at all? 9there are corps that only do industrial bu tey 'tend' to be in hisec. If they have a PvP wing then you'll have more options)
3) What timezone do they primarily operate in? (why join a corp if you're alone all the time?)
4) Do they have requirements that I don't meet?
5) How long has the corp been active? (watch out for brand new corps or brand new CEOs. just make sure you're not paying them rent or trusting that your isk to them.)

If they don't have a strong interview process its a good guess that they don't have strong organization. Which is fine unless you want that.

On the question of Player Investments ...

Yeah ... the best way to make money through investments - is to start a fund, get others to invest in it - and then rob them.

Use Bernie Madoff as an example of how to do it.

The great thing about scamming people in EVE is that - unlike Madoff - when everyone finally realizes it's a scam - you get congratulated by the other scammers - rather than spending the rest of your RL in jail.



Other players have created investment devices in the past but most, if not all of them have failed.

1) The guy doing it got tired of all the work and either gave everyone their money back, just quit playing or robbed them.

2) It was a scam from the start.

3) It started out as a legitimate investment idea and turned into a scam.





Now ... for a new player who has somehow acquired a lot of money - the best thing you can do with that money - is set it aside and don't touch it. Learn how to come up through the ranks just like everyone else. Work to make your money - and learn how the game works. Then - when you are a veteran player - spend the money on something worth while.

If you spend it now - you'll probably just waste it - or lose it.

There is no short cut to experience.

You can buy a character.

You can buy ISK from CCP.

You can't buy experience. You have to get it the old fashioned way.


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