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What are you doing to make your ISK?

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Solai
Doughfleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#81 - 2013-06-19 22:06:22 UTC
OP, you should proofread and clean up your posts. The low quality of communication doesn't reflect well on you.

Also, people have been mentioning ratting, but apparently you've missed it. Incursions are also mentioned, and very profitable. Similarly, in null sec, some individuals buy and run DED sites using multiple alts, and gain the big bucks via jackpot item drops.

I trade. I buy things that have low demand locally, or represent effort that the average ratter doesn't want to deal with, either via laziness or opportunity cost. I am a service provider, in that I offer convenience. After a few days of letting buy orders fill, I tour the region and collect it all together, sort the junk, and then mostly send it to Jita. I also buy and sell high-movement items at low margins. I also keep an eye out for items that take up very little cargohold space per price.

Some things have local demand, but local sell orders complete slower. So I prefer to sell things faster in Jita, at a lower margin, so that I can reinvest and expand sooner. Sometimes it's more lucrative to give the buyers cheaper prices. In theory you can make up the 'loss' with lots of buy orders, and by increasing your market with your customer-favoring prices.

Also, the most profitable activities are the ones you do.
If you don't feel like spending much time on an activity, then you will do it less, and make less money doing it. Therefore, the most profitable activities are often the ones you want to do, or have the most fun doing, or allow you to do other fun things while doing it. You'll be hard pressed to be time efficient doing a chore. This is why ratting is the go-to income source in Null-sec.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#82 - 2013-06-19 23:48:32 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Silivar Karkun wrote:
mining, not a master in it yet, but with my retriever i can make for the plex in a single week, nonstop mining all day and semiAFK. but sometimes i do missions too.


How exciting....

Or relaxing....

Or whatever.



i dont play all the year, just on vacations so i dont care for it as long as i can get 2 plex in less tan one month for the next holidays...
Demal Viliana
Viliana Ventures
#83 - 2013-06-20 00:17:54 UTC
Two rules for success:

#1 - Never reveal everything you know.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#84 - 2013-06-20 02:40:56 UTC
Mining and manufacturing rifters.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!

Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#85 - 2013-06-20 02:45:27 UTC
I beg in local, I can usually average 60m/hour if I rotate systems.

Thank You Obama!

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#86 - 2013-06-20 02:48:30 UTC
it just finds its way into my wallet

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#87 - 2013-06-20 02:50:02 UTC
Andski wrote:
it just finds its way into my wallet


I heard you could get me into Goonswarm cheap.

Thank You Obama!

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#88 - 2013-06-20 02:51:31 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
Andski wrote:
it just finds its way into my wallet


I heard you could get me into Goonswarm cheap.


sums it up

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#89 - 2013-06-20 03:22:02 UTC  |  Edited by: mechtech
I hope you don't mind fuzzy answers.

-250-750m per day for 300-600 more days from an old speculation.
-Unique ships gain value with every passing day. Passive income from inflation hedges. Up 300% or 100B after 3 years.
-Isk ideally invested evenly into alternative inflation hedges, PLEX, and liquid. Things are rarely ideal.
-Liquid isk invested into flavor of the month trends. Ride the trends. 5 blueprints, 5 industry slots, 1 month, 30B and counting. Don't overthink it unless you have an edge or know your competition and know you are smarter. These cases are rare. Monitor the chatter. Follow the money. Common sense is king.
-Investments transformed into more liquid isk through the credit market if opportunity is right. Leverage.

-My industrial scale occupation. Likely more valuable than everything above combined. Forge your own path and there are no limits.
Joan Greywind
The Lazy Crabs
#90 - 2013-06-20 06:09:33 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Flipping burgers at McDonalds and buying plex. Works out to about 500 mil ISK an hour.


Wait you make 20$/h working at McDonalds? I must quit my current job.
Joan Greywind
The Lazy Crabs
#91 - 2013-06-20 06:14:05 UTC
Edah Puss wrote:
Tiven loves Tansien wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:

As long as you have a mining permit and follow the Code, mining ice can still be profitable. Remember to only mine what you need.


Some golden tips right there.



Fly straight and don't get too greedy my friend. Of course respect the Code.



Since this thread is going to be read by quite a few newbies, I thought it wise to point out some of the not so obvious (to new players) scams out there.

This "Code" business, and "Mining Permits" are good examples of EvE meta-gaming scams. The gist of it is that you are supposed to mine with a permit in highsec or the ebil piwates will gank your mining ship, or that there is some Code of Conduct with regards to mining ( LOL, sorry but that makes me laugh every damn time ).

These are just player made-up ideas to trick newbies into paying isk to the scammers.

The simple counter to these highsec scams is to find a different, and quieter, area of highsec to mine from where you wont be harassed by griefers .

Highsec is a big place(s), theres plenty of belts for all, so it is not difficult to find a nice area to mine.


I am sorry are the killmails scams/fakes too? or the tears of non-permit holders? The way I see it the hassle of going into a farther away system is definitely not worth 10m isk (which is really nothing). And the hand of the code of far reaching and there no asteroid you can hide behind. And I am in no way affiliated with the new order.
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#92 - 2013-06-20 07:59:28 UTC
It's all explained in the sig. And I make billions every year.

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Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#93 - 2013-06-20 08:12:53 UTC
Mostly industry and trading but I have a full collection of bpos and a few t2 bpos that I will either produce or use the capital phone to churn out bpc packs. Right now I am moving past freighter and capital production onto super carrier production and sales but I have my toons that I train and sell.
Babyface Eighteen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#94 - 2013-06-20 08:33:48 UTC
Buy low, sell high. I just realized that buying for 1mill and selling for 4mill is a waste of order slots, so now i buy for 7-10mill and sell for 15-30mill.

Also, there is the occacional buy for 60mill, sell for 100mill, buy for 10m, sell for 100, buy for 80mill, sell for 1000mill.

Add in the extra 0 when placing a buy order, and you have the full circle.
Boris Winterbourne
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#95 - 2013-06-20 09:18:59 UTC
Baren wrote:

0.0 Carrier ratting
Steps are as follows:
-I just jump into a good system.
-scan
- warp to the first sanctum or forsaken hub I find
- let isk poor in, just make sure im align to warp out at the first sign or trouble.
Some times you`ll get a officer spawn. nice faction mods inside too


Ok, I'm going to sound like a massive noob, but I have to ask... Do you have a cyno alt that you use to jump, because from what I understand, capitals can't use jumpgates?
Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#96 - 2013-06-20 09:19:33 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Flipping burgers at McDonalds and buying plex. Works out to about 500 mil ISK an hour.



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Lipbite
Express Hauler
#97 - 2013-06-20 09:27:31 UTC
I'm trying to switch to lowsec data-relic exploration but resulting 5-10mil per hour don't seem too expiring (IV skills, specialized ship). So probably I'll have to return to incursions.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#98 - 2013-06-20 12:02:49 UTC
Hrm.
Alts run Max Skilled Sentry carriers and run anoms.

max Skilled Sentry Thanny pilot pulls in about 200-250 mill an hour. depending on what anoms i run with it.
Hauler spawns from farmining belts makes about 250-1.9 bill isk depending on the spawn. *require freighter for hauling cause even when their small still a pain for a badger II.

run level IV's psh fawk the isk per hour its all about Loyalty points in missions.
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#99 - 2013-06-20 12:06:59 UTC
A little bit of everything, depending on the mood. Lots of passive income too.
Baren
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#100 - 2013-06-20 12:14:10 UTC
Boris Winterbourne wrote:
Baren wrote:

0.0 Carrier ratting
Steps are as follows:
-I just jump into a good system.
-scan
- warp to the first sanctum or forsaken hub I find
- let isk poor in, just make sure im align to warp out at the first sign or trouble.
Some times you`ll get a officer spawn. nice faction mods inside too


Ok, I'm going to sound like a massive noob, but I have to ask... Do you have a cyno alt that you use to jump, because from what I understand, capitals can't use jumpgates?



Yes well there are a few ways to do it:

1: if you are part of some null sec alliance, there may be a network of jump beacons and jump bridges set up. You can jump too to beacon in the systems you rat in (Think of them as a permanent cyno you can have lit on your corps pos that only people in your corp or alliance can jump too)

2: yes, youll need a cyno alt, or alts for that matter to jump your ship around.

3: if you only use the carrier to rat and there is a station you can dock at in system. you can always have a friend light a cyno for you and after jumping in dock at the stations when done.