Intergalactic Summit

You know, I would never bother with something like this. You don't need the justification of others to do what makes you feel fulfilled and happy.

Suit yourself. Just not something I would do. In the long run, does it really matter? If you know and understand your sins, why should you care what anyone else thinks?

Yes, I can read......

We have enough information about the Amarr's fleets to know that we cannot stand against them alone. Only the Gallente are really capable of that.

As for the name, "Empire" and "Republic" have nothing to do with our culture and everything to do with our governmental system. When we re-established ourselves as a nation after regaining our freedom from the Amarr, we adopted the Republic government system, thus Republic was the appropriate name to use. We had no "emperor" or "empress," and we certainly didn't have enough under our control to imply "empire."

There's also the fact that we had just thrown off the chains of the Amarr Empire. The term Empire has left a fairly sour taste in the mouth of many Matari, for good reason.



No, clans don't exist just "to provide a common defense." They exist to strengthen us, yes, but it is not for the purpose of war. It is for the purpose of surviving, growing, and becoming better in all ways.



You clearly haven't spent much time in cities, and no, this wasn't in the desert. This was while my husband was attending a university, where he got his business degree. He was a trader, which is a very common profession among my tribe.

Yes, a lot of our population are rural farmers and the like, but that is not even remotely the whole of our population, and that's not nearly so applicable to those of us who live on Matar.

And the fact that a child like you is trying to tell me what I think being a Matari is...your impudence is almost as bad as Halete's. There has always been a massive amount of diversity between the tribes, not to mention even our clans within a tribe tend towards diversity, especially among my own tribe.

How about you actually go and learn about the Vherokior and Clan Leshya before you try to tell me what my clan's values, lifestyle, loyalties, and family structures are.

You clearly don't know anything about living in the desert. "A hard week's march?" Have you never heard of riding animals? Also, the vast majority of our rituals among Clan Leshya involve dance of some sort, and have been handed down since before our Tribe wandered back out of the desert as the Vherokior. Even many of our martial disciplines are half-dance. This is how I knew I enjoyed dancing to begin with, and our dances are already exotic. Adapting to stripping while dancing was easy, I just had to be wearing clothes when I started dancing, something not done for many of my clan's ritual dances.

Your intolerance and disdain for sexuality suggests Amarrian values, not traditional Matari values.



Interclan squabbles? Diplomacy. My clan, in fact, has often served as mediator between our neighboring clans even when their problems don't directly concern us. Warfare between clans only hurts the Tribe, and in the long run, our people as a whole.

As for raiders? Did you not see where I have repeatedly said my clan lives in the desert on Matar? Even if Angels or some such had the audacity to raid Matar, they wouldn't go after a clan wandering the desert when there are far more choice targets.



Hon, you don't even know what Matari culture is. You're a Sebiestor who talks like the most militant of Brutor clans have the only culture of any value. You claim that all of our tribes and clans need to have that sort of culture to truly be Matari. You have no tolerance for how the diversity of the Tribes, and, from what I can tell, you don't even seem to understand your own Tribe's culture. Maybe your clan had to be more militant because of the world you grew up on. The concern you show for raids by Angels and the like suggest you did not grow up among the core worlds. However, that is not necessarily "holding to ancient tradition," but more adapting to modern difficulties.

My clan, having a good financial foundation and our shamans being among those who are responsible for preserving the Voluval, were easily able to set themselves up on Matar, allowing us the choice to live much as our earliest ancestors did, before they returned from their desert exile.

You also need to learn to respect your elders. That is a fairly universal and ancient Matari tradition you seem to have glossed over.

Because if we keep our sins to ourselves, we are not truly working to overcome them. It is easy to believe we are repenting for sin when we keep them in our own mind. That is the sin of pride. It is much harder when you open yourself to the judgment of others.

Public confession is done to overcome our pride. It is both a test of our honesty, and a punishment of humiliation as we lay our dark secrets to bare for all to see.

It is a form of penance.



Not even the Gallente. The Imperial navy outnumbers the Federation navy and the Republic navy combined.



It is proper to respect one's elders.

But it is also proper to show humility.

It is not impudence where respect is not warranted. As you describe here is exactly as I have done.

We do live in a Tribal society, which is organized in a top-down caste based structure. From elder to chief, from chief to clan-councils and individual clan shamans, chiefs, hunt-leaders, and so on. That system is one of many facets of "us", cultural elements which comprise the Minmatar people.

There is nothing wrong with people prizing martial traditions. There is also nothing wrong with people prizing their rituals which may involve dancing, swordplay, or basket weaving.

There is far more to our people and our history than any single facet, and to overemphasize one, or belittle another, is insulting to the whole. We are the sum of our parts. We knew peace, extended peace, because we knew unity. We have since known victory, thanks to that very unity.

In short? Play nice, have a bit of respect for each other. You have more pressing concerns than which of you is *more Minmatar*

Fly free.

I've read what you've said. You know close to nothing and what you do know you've twisted horribly. You have no right to go around telling people whether they are "proper" Minmatar or not. Do not speak like you are an authority on subjects you know so little of.

Govt is typically an abstraction of its underlying culture. Or in our case, an abstraction of Gallente culture.



In my view we (collectively, all tribes/clans) are a warrior people. We tough, smart and spiritually strong.

Do that mean the scientist gotta drop his microscope and go find a gun? No, but he a warrior too in his own way, he fight a different battle, wit microbes and ting.

Even you, little dancer, provided succor and downtime to de troops (including de scientist no doubt.)

10,000 year war/peace lost history, 2000 year peace, den 900 year war. Any doubt the Matari are forged in fire? I don't tink so.

The "warrior" part is metaphorical, not professional, the universe needs farmers and dancers and accountants, not only soldiers.

I also tink de Republic (as a construct of the Federation) is weakenin us as a people. The warrior-poet is becomin a poet, ya dig? De food privisioner is becomin a Quafe subsidiary, feedin us dat sugary bullschit. De broadcaster instead of quality entertainment and information is spoon-feedin us dem trashy programmin from de Federation, turnin us into consumerist morons who buy a mail-order knife for cut thru a shoe.

You felt threatened when I say this, figuring I was leavin you out, or sayin you not one of us but dat's not de case, you just kind of pushy and obtuse. You no ask "what you mean" you say "rawr rawr rawr you wrong I know I know I know" you don't know schit, least of which about how to talk to another human bein.



Dem caravans dat spend all the time in the desert, wearin those long robes, cover their head and everyting. Desert sun aint nothin to play wit.



I met Vherokior clans that would cut ya troat to steal your shoes. Obviously you not seen the darker parts of Matar, an I hope you never do.



My dear we at war now for 900+ years, we did not embrace death and destruction, death and destruction embraced us.

1. Nunya busines, don't ask ppl dat, I could say "200" and you would not know if it was the case. On galnet der's no "elders" and "young" we judge people by the ideas dey give. I was 39 when I was implanted, dat's around 46 in pod years.
2. If I said you was not Matari den I apologize, I don't remember sayin dat.
3. Good den dis conversation is over.

Talkin to me?

My facial markings are stress activated, it doesn't show unless I get the shakes, I can also turn it on somewhat, by controlling my thoughts.