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Dear CCP - Kill the launcher

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Linna Baresi
#121 - 2013-06-18 09:54:54 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
Turelus wrote:
CCP should be able to tell the launcher failed for the simple fact everyone just started launching the game from the bin folder.
I have three accounts, I had shortcuts to each account on my desktop and ran them as Junctions listed here. After the new launcher that no longer worked and I would need to choose the account and log in with the password every time just to launch the game for all my accounts.

So I went with the bin folders and just skip the launcher, because it causes me more annoyance than just having three shortcuts and a log in screen.


Yeah but that isn't really the launcher failing at what is was meant to do.

In the future it'll be built to cater to a case just like yours with multiple account login on the launcher main page (or something to that effect)

Right. It's the launcher failing at what we need it to do.

What it will do in the future is immaterial. Its present condition is a failure.

Darth, that's a pretty silly statement.

The future is far from immaterial.

Get the basic structure out there and get it stable, with an emphasis on mission critical elements... then add the nice little perks as time allows.

This hardly seems like a bad implimentation strategy.

A couple of brief hicups aside the launcher currently does everything we NEED it to do now. The really nice features will just take a bit longer.


It's more than a FEW hiccups, and I'd not call 1+ hours brief...

And what 'nice' new features? Links to Facebook? Show-and-share-all-your-online-friends functions? I've seen those (briefly) appear in other games' launchers, only to be ditched, sometimes after massive user protests about invasion of privacy...

For me, the launcher crashes after each use and has to be removed manually. It's very slow to load (on a fast gaming desktop) and it often doesn't accurately display the server status. I'm less than thrilled.

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Smoking Blunts
ZC Omega
#122 - 2013-06-18 11:51:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Smoking Blunts
Contract Mule wrote:
The launcher wasn't released for people to have a better time playing this game. The launcher was released so CCP could deliver patches to us in an easier manner (and it is).

I'm sure multiple account support will come very soon (Hopefully)



the last launcher had both features. the replacement can only just about do patches

OMG when can i get a pic here
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#123 - 2013-06-18 11:54:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Rommiee
Just in case people cannot find the original (39 pages atm) thread regarding how bad the launcher is, CCP have moved it so that its difficult to find, in the vain hope that people will stop complaining.

It is here now:

EVE Technology and Research Center » Issues, Workarounds & Localization » The new launcher and the web server issues
Kamii Yo
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#124 - 2013-06-18 12:14:45 UTC
CCP Please bring back the old launcher.

Why do you do this to loyal customers?
First Star Wolf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#125 - 2013-06-18 12:16:14 UTC
must agree old launcher worked fine, dont fix what aint broke
Certified Accountant
Quantam Dynamic Eternal Alchemy
#126 - 2013-06-18 12:27:04 UTC
Len Ross wrote:
forever to keep verifying game, writing overlapping, ad ridden buggy launcher, hard to swap characters on the same account without having to restart the whole thing.
Its making you look like amateurs. Remove it or fix it. And sack the idiot who programed it and the one who approved its deployment.



Why have a restart button.... if it does not work. The default option does not even turn off the launcher after you start the game. I would think CCP would have stats showing how many people just bypass the launcher unless they are required to patch.
Maraner
The Executioners
Capital Punishment.
#127 - 2013-06-18 22:11:45 UTC
pretty standard tactic on CCP's part to move a thread they dont like. The usual poor implementation that will likely eventually become just about ok.

Unless it gets killed off.

Just for once I'd like to see CCP step up and say sorry guys, this isn't working out, we are rolling it back. But no.


Stupid bloody mess. I hate that **** when I log in.
Hevymetal
POT Corp
#128 - 2013-06-18 22:33:37 UTC
Anyone else have their account names cache cleared out of the launcher after the patch today? Clicked on the down arrow after the patch and nada :(
Sans Sonic Leon
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2013-06-18 23:34:06 UTC
I launch eve directly from the exefile.exe, launcher just brings unnecessary lag.
Dracnys
#130 - 2013-06-19 00:19:09 UTC
The launcher doesn't do anything for us! Do away with it and give us a login screen to enjoy!

Half of the fun of a new expansion was the login screen and music!
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#131 - 2013-06-19 00:49:14 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
marVLs wrote:
I want 3 things with it:

1. Better performance/optimalization
2. Saving passwords
3. Redone character lobby with expansion theme, some animations etc. overall something cool like those prototype screens with new interface etc.
Most certainly on our radar for improvements.


I just want to be able to run multiple launchers, would make getting back in game much quicker after a dc.

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KwaLevu
PH0ENIX COMPANY
#132 - 2013-06-19 01:29:16 UTC
anyone stuck at 0.0 % validate ??
Hevymetal
POT Corp
#133 - 2013-06-19 02:20:25 UTC
Dracnys wrote:
The launcher doesn't do anything for us!


Sure it does, It frustrates and annoys us

Dracnys wrote:
Do away with it and give us a login screen to enjoy!

Half of the fun of a new expansion was the login screen and music!


Agreed
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#134 - 2013-06-19 07:11:37 UTC
Ya know what a government does when it's resisting budgetary reform? They don't cut the bureaucracy. They cut sanitation services, parks services, and police. Not because there are any real money gains to be made there... but because people see it and it hurts their quality of life. It's a way of distracting from the real problems... and it works almost every time (good luck Brazil!).

Who cares about the launcher? Don't we have bigger fish to fry?


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Priorities people. Straight

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Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#135 - 2013-06-19 09:02:24 UTC
Maraner wrote:
Just for once I'd like to see CCP step up and say sorry guys, this isn't working out, we are rolling it back.


They have done this once, after the CQ disaster

This also prompted a promise to never let that happen again....some quotes from tha blog, which demonstartes how worthless and misleading that apology was...

Quote:
"A Humbler, Stronger CCP"


Quote:
What I can say for now is that we’ve taken action to ensure these mistakes are never repeated. We have reexamined our processes, hired experienced industry professionals for key leadership positions, reassessed our priorities, moved personnel around and, above all else, recognized our limitations.


Quote:
EVE is still unique in the real and virtual world. This is our vision for her, and we want so badly to take you there. But getting there is not an entitlement. It will take hard work, open communication and, above all else, collaboration with you. The greatest lesson for me is the realization that EVE belongs to you, and we at CCP are just the hosts of your experience. When we channel our passion for EVE constructively, we can make this vision a reality together.



All of those, a complete load of bollox, tbh.


And then you have the all-time classic.....


Quote:
“It’s not what you say, it’s what you do,” that will make the difference here. From now on, CCP will focus on doing what we say and saying what we do. That is the path to restoring trust and moving forward.


The biggest pile of crap ever spoken.

Priceless
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#136 - 2013-06-19 09:59:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Rommiee wrote:
They have done this once, after the CQ disaster

This also prompted a promise to never let that happen again....some quotes from tha blog, which demonstartes how worthless and misleading that apology was...
Quote:
"A Humbler, Stronger CCP"

Quote:
What I can say for now is that we’ve taken action to ensure these mistakes are never repeated. We have reexamined our processes, hired experienced industry professionals for key leadership positions, reassessed our priorities, moved personnel around and, above all else, recognized our limitations.

Quote:
EVE is still unique in the real and virtual world. This is our vision for her, and we want so badly to take you there. But getting there is not an entitlement. It will take hard work, open communication and, above all else, collaboration with you. The greatest lesson for me is the realization that EVE belongs to you, and we at CCP are just the hosts of your experience. When we channel our passion for EVE constructively, we can make this vision a reality together.

All of those, a complete load of bollox, tbh.

And then you have the all-time classic.....
Quote:
“It’s not what you say, it’s what you do,” that will make the difference here. From now on, CCP will focus on doing what we say and saying what we do. That is the path to restoring trust and moving forward.


The biggest pile of crap ever spoken.

Priceless

Well they were clear about the jumping animation: "there is no old system"

Maybe next they need to be open about their desire to drive the newandimproved launcher down our throats, with something like: "there is no old launcher"

The bin exe file is not the launcher you are looking for.

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Kreeia Dgore
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#137 - 2013-06-19 10:09:05 UTC
I don't know why they implemented the launcher in the first place. It didn't help anything, and so far CCP was more about functional solutions, or at least aimed to be one. I stil remember the starting screen of incarna ane enjoyed the others and it was the most functional solution for having multiple accounts one can find.
But now? First some ***** stole my bike jukebox and now I need quite long to log in my accounts. And no nice starting screen to compensate! Come on CCP, you used to be cool.
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#138 - 2013-06-19 10:15:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Adela Talvanen
I've noticed that CCP has given us a new theme tune for when we log in, but I've yet to hear it all the way through, for as soon as I/we logged in I go into the game.
Phoenix Bibbs
Imperium Cartel.
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#139 - 2013-06-19 22:39:10 UTC
You people complain too much.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#140 - 2013-06-19 22:53:43 UTC
The old login screen was minimalist and shared the atmosphere of the game.

The launcher looks like a generic hunk of software with all kinds of text and bars and indications all over it.

It took something that was good about starting up EVE and replaced it with a generic hunk of garbage that looks bad and functions poorly.