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WHEN WILL THE POOR MINER GET A VOICE

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Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#61 - 2011-11-01 15:09:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
mavrick1 wrote:
well like a lot of people in this game i am just a poor miner and trying to scratch a living out of the rocks and yet there are ganking fleets out there trying to kill us and really people like goonswarm that prey on the miners and they have a voice but we as miners are forced to just sit back and take it and say can i have some more please.....but really i my self stay out of null sec and low sec and i mine in high sec so i pay a high price for the harder to get ores and things....but i chose to keep my prices low so i can sell but if i do get ganked i will be forced to raise my price and thus raise the price game wide and really i do not want that it slows my sales down and i lose money granted i would lose more if i got ganked but over time the sales loss adds up and i can not afford the loose and all i am asking is give a miner a voice some of us are not carebears but we do not like fight or deal with wars unless we are selling on the market to the people who fight that war we are sided with no one and we refuse to take sides in a war all we ask is a voice and to be left alone to our rocks and ice


Paragraphs, punctuation, capitalisation, and non-run-on sentences, mate:

You'd be amazed at how they help your credibility, for cereal!

Right, now then:

You will have a voice if/when you choose to take the opportunity to use yours in-game, no sooner.

SeBo'ed Arty-Pests can gank gankers as they go global just as easily as they can gank mining-ships. CovOps cloake'd Stealth-Bombers arguably even better, as you aren't seen before you choose to strike.

Stop whining like little bitches, stop so odiously pulling out your victim-badge, and even more odiously expecting the rest of us to put poor little you on some kind of pedestal of frozen carebear-tears, and use the tools CCP gives you to deal with this, for there are many.

NO-ONE is forcing you to do anything, as long as even one of those tools exist. The choice to use them, and the onus to make that choice lies with you--this is how a sandbox is supposed to work. The choice to "sit back and take it?" That is also your choice.

STOP.
BEING.
VICTIMS.

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#62 - 2011-11-01 15:41:37 UTC
Sphincter Twoknuckle wrote:
Well my fellow miner I am afraid to say we will never have a vioce. Eve has been won and not by us. I have lost almost everything this past month in game, maybe I need to L2P but I dont really care. Actually I like to thank these guys. I have found something new for me. Perpetuum it is called, look it up. It has many the same features as eve but some really interesting anti greifing mechanics as well. Flagged pvp in there high sec areas (dont want to be ganked turn it off and you cannot be attacked) but also the open pvp eve offers in the low sec areas. You can mine in piece with out the risk of lossing your shirt. This is a sandbox you can play as you like as long as its pvp.

Anyway this will be my last toon created and I am off to have some FUN elsewhere. Eve is a greifers paradise let them have it. There is nothing left for me. I will be watching to see the subs hit an all time high when EVE: Goonswarm edition drops.

Good luck and try and have some fun, thats what games are all about. o/


You can't win EVE.

Guess what: I can't either.

And despite their hilarious IRL-issue-informed delusions of adequacy/importance, Goonies most definitely can't.

No-one can win EVE, it's a sandbox with no explicit end-game, but you know what?

That means that despite the fact that no specific entity can win in the classic sense, it does mean that everyone can "win," if they but choose to use the tools available to them in any given situation. Because it's a sandbox.

Think about something other than "Oh, poor little victim-me," and instead how you might use the open-ended, available-to-all tools the sandbox gives you, and you too, can "win." I can too. So can everyone else. Yes, even Goonies.

Working as intended, that you refuse to expand your mindset beyond "victim-mode" is no-one's fault but your own.

Perpetuum is an utter crap game, by the way.

Oh, yeah: I can haz ur stuffs?

Ni.
Sephiroth Clone VII
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#63 - 2011-11-07 04:32:42 UTC
The dramatic story of the minors er miners that the great villain mittani touched with his evil purge of gallante highsec.

Only thing to do now is write a eve fan-fiction on eve is real about how your character lost his parents who were miners to Goon storm troopers (mirroring luke in that sceen star wars finding his astro farm destroyed and relatives killed). Then begins the story of a path to greatness to become powerful enough to stop the Goons and overlord Mittani.

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Roldanus
Black Anvil Industries
#64 - 2011-11-07 04:35:28 UTC
Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:
The dramatic story of the minors er miners that the great villain mittani touched with his evil purge of gallante highsec.

Only thing to do now is write a eve fan-fiction on eve is real about how your character lost his parents who were miners to Goon storm troopers (mirroring luke in that sceen star wars finding his astro farm destroyed and relatives killed). Then begins the story of a path to greatness to become powerful enough to stop the Goons and overlord Mittani.

duuuu duuuu du du du duuuuuu du duuuuuuUUU dudududududdududuuuuuuuuuuuuu



Are u on drugs mate?
Sephiroth Clone VII
Brothers of Tyr
Goonswarm Federation
#65 - 2011-11-07 04:58:41 UTC
Roldanus wrote:
Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:
The dramatic story of the minors er miners that the great villain mittani touched with his evil purge of gallante highsec.

Only thing to do now is write a eve fan-fiction on eve is real about how your character lost his parents who were miners to Goon storm troopers (mirroring luke in that sceen star wars finding his astro farm destroyed and relatives killed). Then begins the story of a path to greatness to become powerful enough to stop the Goons and overlord Mittani.

duuuu duuuu du du du duuuuuu du duuuuuuUUU dudududududdududuuuuuuuuuuuuu



Are u on drugs mate?



No but are you https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24691&find=unread


Were you shafted rodimus prime for being a minor?
Roldanus
Black Anvil Industries
#66 - 2011-11-07 05:07:39 UTC
Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:
Roldanus wrote:
Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:
The dramatic story of the minors er miners that the great villain mittani touched with his evil purge of gallante highsec.

Only thing to do now is write a eve fan-fiction on eve is real about how your character lost his parents who were miners to Goon storm troopers (mirroring luke in that sceen star wars finding his astro farm destroyed and relatives killed). Then begins the story of a path to greatness to become powerful enough to stop the Goons and overlord Mittani.

duuuu duuuu du du du duuuuuu du duuuuuuUUU dudududududdududuuuuuuuuuuuuu



Are u on drugs mate?



No but are you https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24691&find=unread


Were you shafted rodimus prime for being a minor?



Well, time will tell.
Just trying to have the most from this game...and as well as Goons are focused in making peoples life miserable in EVE, Im on the opposite side.

And let me tell u something about we minors or miners, I have seen lately how very experienced PVPs went down for being so cocky like u are....

Fly safe
Roldanus
Black Anvil Industries
#67 - 2011-11-07 05:11:27 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
mavrick1 wrote:
well like a lot of people in this game i am just a poor miner and trying to scratch a living out of the rocks and yet there are ganking fleets out there trying to kill us and really people like goonswarm that prey on the miners and they have a voice but we as miners are forced to just sit back and take it and say can i have some more please.....but really i my self stay out of null sec and low sec and i mine in high sec so i pay a high price for the harder to get ores and things....but i chose to keep my prices low so i can sell but if i do get ganked i will be forced to raise my price and thus raise the price game wide and really i do not want that it slows my sales down and i lose money granted i would lose more if i got ganked but over time the sales loss adds up and i can not afford the loose and all i am asking is give a miner a voice some of us are not carebears but we do not like fight or deal with wars unless we are selling on the market to the people who fight that war we are sided with no one and we refuse to take sides in a war all we ask is a voice and to be left alone to our rocks and ice


Paragraphs, punctuation, capitalisation, and non-run-on sentences, mate:

You'd be amazed at how they help your credibility, for cereal!

Right, now then:

You will have a voice if/when you choose to take the opportunity to use yours in-game, no sooner.

SeBo'ed Arty-Pests can gank gankers as they go global just as easily as they can gank mining-ships. CovOps cloake'd Stealth-Bombers arguably even better, as you aren't seen before you choose to strike.

Stop whining like little bitches, stop so odiously pulling out your victim-badge, and even more odiously expecting the rest of us to put poor little you on some kind of pedestal of frozen carebear-tears, and use the tools CCP gives you to deal with this, for there are many.

NO-ONE is forcing you to do anything, as long as even one of those tools exist. The choice to use them, and the onus to make that choice lies with you--this is how a sandbox is supposed to work. The choice to "sit back and take it?" That is also your choice.

STOP.
BEING.
VICTIMS.


GO FIND
A
BETTER
TARGET

STOP HUNTING IN THE ZOO, THATS EASY
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#68 - 2011-11-07 05:20:58 UTC
mavrick1 wrote:
well like a lot of people in this game i am just a poor miner and trying to scratch a living out of the rocks and yet there are ganking fleets out there trying to kill us and really people like goonswarm that prey on the miners and they have a voice but we as miners are forced to just sit back and take it and say can i have some more please.....but really i my self stay out of null sec and low sec and i mine in high sec so i pay a high price for the harder to get ores and things....but i chose to keep my prices low so i can sell but if i do get ganked i will be forced to raise my price and thus raise the price game wide and really i do not want that it slows my sales down and i lose money granted i would lose more if i got ganked but over time the sales loss adds up and i can not afford the loose and all i am asking is give a miner a voice some of us are not carebears but we do not like fight or deal with wars unless we are selling on the market to the people who fight that war we are sided with no one and we refuse to take sides in a war all we ask is a voice and to be left alone to our rocks and ice


Ran to support miners in every CSM election since the first one and got elected 1 1/2 times, There were other candidates as well. So you can have a voice if you get enough other miners to elect someone to support your focus.

So start supporting and promoting someone for the next CSM that will support you!

Issler
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2011-11-07 05:58:50 UTC
Roldanus wrote:
Just trying to have the most from this game...and as well as Goons are focused in making peoples life miserable in EVE

We're trying to make life better for the ice asteroids in Gallente space. What is so wrong about that?

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Roldanus
Black Anvil Industries
#70 - 2011-11-07 15:34:52 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Roldanus wrote:
Just trying to have the most from this game...and as well as Goons are focused in making peoples life miserable in EVE

We're trying to make life better for the ice asteroids in Gallente space. What is so wrong about that?



You are the worst joker ive heard of.
You are lke the fat brown bear of muppets...

Practice NoobWaffle
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2011-11-07 17:06:46 UTC
Roldanus wrote:
NoobWaffle

OH ****

SICK BURNS YO

DAMN NEED SOME ICE FOR THAT BURN

YO DOG HOLLA HOLLA
Kan'loch Lacoud
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2011-11-07 17:21:10 UTC
Princess Cellestia wrote:
TEST might be giving you a candidate who not only spent months doing highsec ice and ore mining, but nullsec mining and industry. A candidate who actually knows that mining and industry are not relegated to just one region. That all regions are garbage and need to be buffed. A candidate who thinks 20k ehp on a hulk is goddamn ********. But that's just a maybe.



I for one hope TEST nominate someone else and keep your **** posting to the internal forums.
mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#73 - 2011-11-07 20:22:56 UTC
well i do mine but still i have avoided the gankes so far but really i just seen a few noobs get ranked over the past few weeks

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
Phyress
Isumi Industries
#74 - 2011-11-10 23:20:35 UTC
Killstealing wrote:
Roldanus wrote:
NoobWaffle

OH ****

SICK BURNS YO

DAMN NEED SOME ICE FOR THAT BURN

YO DOG HOLLA HOLLA

Clearly, the Swarm's real motivation in protecting the Gallente ice belts is to be sure that they will have enough ice to deal with such hot and clever burns as these.
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#75 - 2011-11-11 14:37:53 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
The poor miner will get a voice when the poor miner discovers paragraphs.


This. Seriously, if english isn't your forte, then please leave the talking to those of us who can do so succinctly ?

.
mavrick1
waistland prospecters
#76 - 2011-11-11 20:04:13 UTC
wow that is a shock i started this one and no one has closed it but the one i do about veterans day get closed really make me wonder some times

under the radar is where i fly i make my isk like very one
Trusty Jutspezic
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2011-11-11 22:38:26 UTC
Roldanus wrote:

GO FIND
A
BETTER
TARGET

I can't think of a better target for our effort/attention ratio.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#78 - 2011-11-12 00:15:18 UTC
womyn power for csm

give the miner a voice
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#79 - 2011-11-25 05:32:24 UTC
mavrick1 wrote:
i am just a poor miner and trying to scratch a living out of the rocks


That's your problem right there.
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#80 - 2011-12-03 17:30:37 UTC
mavrick1 wrote:
WHEN WILL THE POOR MINER GET A VOICE

When most of them aren't bots

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544