EVE General Discussion

Intel and 50 cents will buy you a cup of coffee lol.

…if those other players choose to give him that. They can also choose not to. Either way, he won't know since he's AFK.

It's not much in the way of a “gain” tbh.
So I have your endorsement, then. Goodie. Do I have your vote as well? Wouldn't you want to know my program first?

That's some cheap coffee…

I would have to agree with other posters who argue against afk play. I like the new ice mining change and feel it should be extended to include cloaking. If you can’t be bothered to be in game then you should not be in game cloaked. Please explain how clicking a button to remain cloaked would effect a cloaked player present at KB playing the game?

I wouldnt need to know your progam. I have read the forums forums since I started and they have provided me with all I need to know about your program.

Why not?

Less word salad please?
It would affect a cloaker by giving off even more free intel about his status without the on-lookers having done anything to deserve it.

Excellent. So could you tell me what it is even without knowing it? I could use some pointers to build my campaign on.

This is a bad idea. Too much safety means it's easier for null alliances to "entrench" themselves in their space. making it even harder to remove people from their space doesn't mean more fighting (and fighting is good for the EVE economy), it means less as people say "blah, why bother".

Look a the current conflict, which was delayed by MONTHS because CFC didn't want to grind Sov. Allowing alliances to make their space too safe would just delay conflicts even further. If anything EVE needs easier sov mechanics, not harder.

Right now null sec is kinda like World War Two in space, doing what you suggest (allowing a form of "entrenching" or digging in for more safety") sounds good to the individual pilot, but would be terrible for the game. it would turn it into World War ONE in space.

We have thousands of tools (starting with our own brains and the ships of our buddies) to keep us safe in null, tools that most people don't even use (I'm serious, I'm the only one I know who rats in a Venture with assigned fighters). People should use and exhaust those tools before asking for more tools (ie more automated features).

Oh yeah this too.


Crumbs yeah.

It's null sec, you should be trying to protect yourself (fitting properly, PVEing in fleet, having a plan) regardless of who's sitting there or not. If you have to "react" to a guy coming in and cloaking, you were doing it wrong in the 1st place.

People try to do null sec like they did high sec and that's bad thinking. Like suicide ganking in high sec, the only reason people afk cloak or do hot drops or awox is because people make it possible for them to do that by not being prepared.

After getting SPANKED by me (or ignored when I move one system over and keep ratting), the afk cloakys and hotdroppers stopped coming lol, i guess they went looking for easier targets.



With all due respect, it doesn't matter what yo consider a counter, what matters is reality. If people aren't willing to use the tools the game already has in abundance to counter a silly threat, then that's there personal problem, not a problem with the game that needs changing.

I can tell you that the people complaining about cloaky campers and local and hotdrops have probaly NEVER even tried to counter it with simple things (like warp core stabs, ratting with drones, FoF missiles, Black Ops ratting (you can jump a black ops to a beacon you know, don't even need a cyno character) stabbed Black Ops MINING (same principle) etc etc). Their lack of creativity is also a personal problem.

I thought she replied "It would affect a cloaker by giving off even more free intel about his status without the on-lookers having done anything to deserve it." ?

No one is talking about too easy/too hard. At least I'm not.

I'm talking about people ignoring all the tools the game gives to combat a problem. I'm talking about people who would rather ask ccp for a change than figure it out themselves, as imo this goes again the nature of gaming. Did anyone ever ask Namco to make pac-man easier because the ghost were too fast and the pellets too yellow?

I live everyday in null sec. I've lived in 13 regions since 2008. I've killed so many NPCs they should be an endangered species.

And yet somehow some of you can't figure out the game as I have. you don't even have to get fancy and "dual box", just use something like a warp core stabbed Fof Raven or Sentry Domi and ignore the poor little cloaked stealth bomber (laughing when you kill him or when you warp off before his bros can cyno in).

Right there above is your "1 toon solution" and there are even more that I will share with you if you ask.

I consider it the heart of weakness that so many of you would rather ask the game makers to change the game than prove you ability to think your way through this "problem". I'm sorry if that's harsh but that's the way it is.



And you can. I dualbox because I can and im greedy for that Isk, it's not a requirement and I never said it was.

You know what is a good substitute fort dual boxing? FRIENDS. you know, those people you can fleet with and fight with if a fight happens.

But for some reason people seem to think they are entitled to go totally solo in null sec. Sorry, that is not the case.

Again apologies for the harsh tone, but it can't be said otherwise. If you think something needs changing yet you haven't exhausted (or even considered) all the tools at your disposal, you're opinion is wrong.