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Dev Blog: New system requirements for EVE

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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#41 - 2013-06-19 16:26:29 UTC
Kane Plekkel wrote:
I've been running EVE on Windows 8 since about February, with no issues, so what do you mean by official support? Do you plan on having a Metro tile or something?
We are not planning a Metro Tile. This is about internally requiring testing on Windows 8, rolling out Windows 8 across the dev team and customer support (in a mix with Windows 7; external testing then further has Windows XP and Windows Vista) and externally that players can expect everything to work on Windows 8.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

Blade dance
Care-Bear Central
Care-Free Coalition
#42 - 2013-06-19 16:27:16 UTC
I just want to say to all at CCP Thank you!! Thank you for updating things and thank you for your continually making this game better. I can't wait to see what is in store for the future!

It would be nice to see actual damage to ship's hulls, the effects of what a shield looks like reppeling an opponents weapon's volley all in real time, or a more detailed wreck that accurately depicts a shadow of what that wreck once was ( nike capitol ships do currently) .............................Perhaps in the future we will get there However, In the mean time thanks for getting us one step closer!
Max Kolonko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-06-19 16:27:30 UTC
Number One Everything wrote:
I see dual/quad core processors are now recommended/required. Does that mean we can expect EVE to take advantage of hyperthreading?


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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#44 - 2013-06-19 16:32:54 UTC
Number One Everything wrote:
I see dual/quad core processors are now recommended/required. Does that mean we can expect EVE to take advantage of hyperthreading?
Yes and no; we already take advantage of multiple cores in the sense that all I/O is done asynchronously (both disk and network I/O) and it's beneficial to EVE that the operating system has other cores for other processing. We are therefore setting the minimum at dual core so that EVE can "consume" one core while the operating system can attend to other things, inter alia on behalf of EVE, on other cores.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#45 - 2013-06-19 16:36:06 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months.
We are not planning now any changes that will make currently usable hardware unusable. We are setting a baseline for the future.

Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer

C DeLeon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2013-06-19 16:37:15 UTC
Now I have to eat my potato instead of playing eve on it!
Lateris
#47 - 2013-06-19 16:39:32 UTC
OK I will upgrade from windows 3.1 Roll
Shiganaru
Ignis Aeternus Imperium
#48 - 2013-06-19 16:44:07 UTC
ATI Radeon 4850 HD 1GB - 40-60 FPS

The only time that ever drops significantly is while inside those pesky dust clouds.

However, I should be getting a new Radeon 7850 2GB in the mail. . any minute actually. (^_^)
BAJRAN BALI
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2013-06-19 16:44:10 UTC
Does this mean DX11 might be coming? I remember CCP did a demo on DX11 a while back.

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Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2013-06-19 16:46:49 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
We are not planning a Metro Tile. This is about internally requiring testing on Windows 8, rolling out Windows 8 across the dev team and customer support (in a mix with Windows 7; external testing then further has Windows XP and Windows Vista) and externally that players can expect everything to work on Windows 8.


Whoa wait, can we expect everything to work on Windows 7? When did that happen? Or is Windows 8 getting better support?



(I run Win 8 and generally have no win8-specific problems, but had to run repair.exe today because the launcher barfed somehow on the latest patch)

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Verik dra'Har
Belwegian Royal Navy
#51 - 2013-06-19 16:52:49 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months.


I'm in a similar boat, but at least I have a gaming rig at home. I mine and run the occasional security mission in high sec on my laptop and the Intel gfx crash when I gate jump and come out of a station always, and occasionally on regular warp. I've litterally disabled everything or set it to low. Strangly it still looks decent, and I get the experience I expect on a low machine, but how about a toggle for certain graphics that may be causing some of the problems? (ie the gate jump transition from in the whole back to regular space and just make it look like a regular jump)
Alty MacAlterson
Alt Corporation
#52 - 2013-06-19 16:52:50 UTC
But when will the launcher be supported under Windows 7?
Luigi Thirty
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#53 - 2013-06-19 16:55:44 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Number One Everything wrote:
I see dual/quad core processors are now recommended/required. Does that mean we can expect EVE to take advantage of hyperthreading?
Yes and no; we already take advantage of multiple cores in the sense that all I/O is done asynchronously (both disk and network I/O) and it's beneficial to EVE that the operating system has other cores for other processing. We are therefore setting the minimum at dual core so that EVE can "consume" one core while the operating system can attend to other things, inter alia on behalf of EVE, on other cores.


Does this mean Eve will now spin all my cores at 100% while in Incarna mode instead of just my video card? If I have a quad-core processor, will I be able to walk around a station faster?
Sir John Halsey
#54 - 2013-06-19 17:09:03 UTC
No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM?

With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :(
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#55 - 2013-06-19 17:12:50 UTC
Dev Blog wrote:
AMD users: For a long time, the minimum/recommended AMD cards were not matched to their NVIDIA counterparts. They are equivalent now.


My understanding of English language must be failing me but what does the above mean? Exactly?

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#56 - 2013-06-19 17:15:49 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Jeez not again Cry last system upgrade I was out of EVE for 6 months Ugh
While I may be space rich I am definitely RL poor & won't be able to upgrade my compuer this summer!

Will my Pentium 4 CPU 3.00 GH work with an Asus 4350 video card like it currently does run EVE?


OK after panic'ing I read this:
CCP Explorer wrote:
I would like emphasize that this change now in minimum and recommended system requirements will not exclude any current hardware compared to the previous system requirements. In particular we are not making any changes on 10 July to the EVE Client that will prevent you from using your current computers.

With the new system requirements we are creating a baseline for the future. You can still try and run the game with unsupported hardware, we just can't guarantee a good experience. Using supported hardware we will be able to detail what you should be able to expect.


So I can breathe a sigh of relief...
So even if I'm under requirements I will be able to 'somewhat' run without the client giving me the error box like what happened with Incarna.
I'll hold you to the above quote CCP Explorer
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#57 - 2013-06-19 17:16:04 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months.
We are not planning now any changes that will make currently usable hardware unusable. We are setting a baseline for the future.


So, if you can fly it now, you can fly it after the requirements change, right? :)

Not that that simple explanation made it any easier for the short bus crowd last time around...

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Khadann
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-06-19 17:26:07 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:


With the new system requirements we are creating a baseline for the future.


A future such as the HD textures? Big smile
Daedra Blue
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-06-19 17:29:25 UTC
So, when do we get the high-res texture pack promised at Fanfest?!

Honestly, we put 3000+ euros in our machines, and they sit there idly while we look at unsharp low res textures on our ships.

C'mon, we know you can do it, give a little effort. We will love you if you give us the high-res pack. Big smile
CCP Vertex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#60 - 2013-06-19 17:30:29 UTC
Sable Moran wrote:
Dev Blog wrote:
AMD users: For a long time, the minimum/recommended AMD cards were not matched to their NVIDIA counterparts. They are equivalent now.


My understanding of English language must be failing me but what does the above mean? Exactly?


This means that previously the NVIDIA and AMD cards we recommended for EVE were not equal, the cards we recommend now have very similar rendering capabilities.

**CCP Vertex  |  Senior Development Manager ** | @CCP_Vertex