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I imagine this look awesome, but somone can explain how this looks for person who can use only one eye...

As i know VR devices sent in same time pictures to left and right eyes rest do our brain to feel - see 3d model, to enjoy full 3d animations in most cases only people with two healthy eyes can see this, how about people who got only one eye...

In my case i use only rigt eye, left eye is totaly destroyed -95% visibility, somone can explain or got expirence with this case ?

Sorry for poor English and bad grammar.

frist how much does an E-VR unit cost?


second I think this would be a great start to staion content.

Release more in-game footage. I was watching the EVE-VR: Oculus Rift View Demo video and want to see more. Since I can't play EVR at least I can watch the video with my RiftDK. Sure it's not interactive, but I can at least tell how it would play.

Just capture a stream of people playing. I think it would be cool because there is no other way to experience it without being one of the very few at a convention.

It looks pretty interesting. And it's good to see new ideas being offered support by players. I've scanned this thread briefly and so far only noticed one snarky "but of course you won't do it right" bleat. I'll never understand people who dislike EVE, dislike CCP, dislike everything CCP tries to do, and yet still put themselves through the continuing ordeal of subscribing and playing.

Yeah, I know. I'm a terrible fan.

Still, onto the actual point. This looks like an intriguing idea, and I'll be interested to see where CCP go with it. Particularly in terms of how they might potentially integrate a direct-control ship mechanism into the point-and-click environment we've got now.

Personally I've always said that what would make EVE better for me would be direct, simulator-style, first-person ship control and Newtonian physics - though I've always accepted that that's not what EVE is and that there'd be a player outcry if it were implemented. You only have to consider how quickly Incarna was killed to see that people don't want changes to the basic mechanic - and Incarna was an add-on, rather than a change. (For what it's worth, I think the halt on Incarna was a shame - I'd have loved to have seen more made of it.)

Still, DUST depends on direct control, of course, so there's probably no reason why subsections of space gameplay - such as fighters - can't work in a similar sort of way: but I wonder if, in order to counter the increased intelligence of attacking fighters, there might not be scope for directly-controlled weapons turrets on bigger ships, also using VR?

Actually, my real interest in this technology comes from the hardware. And I admit I don't know much about VR technology, but I gather - based on the Oculus Rift FAQ - that the display is collimated to provide a distant focal point. As someone who's constantly using computers whilst - I admit it - getting older, my eyes are starting to feel the strain of being fixed at 2-3' focal distance almost all the time. I will be eternally grateful to the firm that produces affordable, reasonable-resolution VR technology as a general-use VDU, and by extension any games company that encourages development.

Watching the official vid and the PvP, I couldn't help but be clearly reminded of Vendetta Online gameplay back from 2004. Even the circular reticules and target markers were the same. Cool, this is. Original and groundbreaking, this is not.

I agree with Aekat Kyros, Gogela and the other friends here showing appreciation for this. I think its a great job from CCP Karuk and the EVE VR team. This kind of gameplay is just what the EVE universe needs to make it more vibrant and really harness the potential that this rich sci-fi universe has. It probably will be impossible for you to make it compatible with the current EVE Online game engine/gameplay system, but even if you only link the 2 games and have them represent some interaction information on each other, like the EVE-Dust link, i'm sure everybody that currently plays EVE and would like to experience it like a space fighter/simulator will be very pleased and support your project. You might even cuddle two birds with one hand on this one, since the people playing EVE who enjoy its tactical gameplay (blobbing each other with 500 people on grid, with their game clients on minimum graphic quality/resulution, clicking on small little squares and on a massive spreadsheet) will still be happy. EVE-VR isnt gonna take that gameplay/experience away from them, if it is actually another linked game like Dust. I still have a hard time understanding the kind of management options that got people fired for developing content like Incarna avatars and WIS since there seem to be as many or even more people playing EVE who want it than those who don't. I surely hope that you won't get fired like them and that your project goes forward.

Hello Oxylan
I think that only the older 3d animations with layered red and blueish images required you to use both eyes to see them with those red and blue colored goggles. I'm not sure about this, but i think neither the newer 3d nor the Rift animations require you to use both eyes to see them. In any case, if I found myself in your position, what I would do would be to consult the ophthalmologist about the possibility of getting an eye transplant (surgical procedure where they implant a donor's cornea in your damaged eye), or one of those new bionic eye implants (electronic component implanted in your eye that will feed image to your brain via the optic nerve). I think the best ones available right now already provide the implanted person with a blurry monochromatic vision.

btw have you heard that saying: "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king" :D hahaha

First of all, to the EVE-VR team: you guys did an excellent job! Thanks for having the initiative and determination to get this prototype out there.

Also, for your information, I would happily be willing to plunk down $400 on VR equipment if it made gameplay feel more real and fun. So pass that along to management and investors.

All the above suggestions about control via multiple peripherals (e.g. joysticks) should be taken seriously. I know plenty of great frig/interceptor pilots who have said in past years "It would be so much more fun if I could do this with a joystick." It looks like you guys have a great opening to take your idea one step further.

But I'm noticing a big flaw in the current setup. Namely, where's the pod?

In order to combine EVE-VR with the pod experience, allow me to suggest that you slightly modify the user interface. Instead of showing hands on sticks and control panels, I should think the in-pod control panels would appear like holograms in mid-air, suspended in front of the clear view of outer space. As we activate various modules or order drones around or interact with the universe, we would see our avatar's hands moving toward random points in space (apparently, though they would only be swimming in pod goo), after which a hologram would appear out of nowhere to indicate the action that has taken place, and it would slowly fade as appropriate when deactivated.


This still would use your same framework, but makes it compatible with the current game mythology surrounding capsuleers. I know it's not entirely as fun as feeling the inside of your ship, but are you really going to write capsules out of the EVE storyline just for that? I suppose it isn't without precedent (racial attributes, corporate divisions, learning skills), but I would really be surprised to see you guys do such a major storychage.

If you really are stuck on using the already-designed graphics, maybe they can be utilised in another interwoven game with EVE (like Dust). Maybe in addition to land-based dust mercenaries we can contract some fighter pilot dust mercenaries for dogfights within planetary atmospheres and low exospheric orbits. And maybe you'll let some of us EVE guys get in on things with them. :)

In the meantime, I haven't heard this much buzz about any dev team in at least two years. Keep up the work, and I can't wait to appreciate it firsthand!
-JM

Hello Jehan Markow
I think u misinterpreted the idea they have behind this game mode they are creating: the player here is supposed to be a pilot in a fighter (one of those ships that in EVE are launched out of carriers) and not a capsuleer (who in eve controls frigates, cruisers, battleships, etc, using his/her pod hardwiring).
This is not a mythology, it's a fictional futuristic technology that allows the posthuman to interact with a machine directly using a neural connection.
I think that the GUI in EVE (Graphic User Interface) including the overview, ship status bars and module icons, and the image and sound you get, already represents the experience that the capsuleer has when operating the ship.
Nevertheless i also think this interface is extremely ugly and unintuitive and could use a major improvement/redesign and I agree that something like the idea you are suggesting and is being built on EVE-VR would look and feel extremely cool on EVE, but since we are controlling a ship inside a pod theres no need for us to see our bodies represented in space, what we see in space is the ship itself, which in EVE's case is ultimately an extension of your body.

unfortunalty not