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Oh CCP - you clever dogs, you knew the xbox one was going to sink!

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Stegas Tyrano
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-06-18 01:22:06 UTC
PC Release = Aimbots = Massive ISK Inflation

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Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-06-18 03:18:04 UTC
Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:
Well, regarding independent developers with no publisher, MS response when it comes to the Xbox One is "Go f*ck yourselves".


Another reason why Dust can't be on the Xbone: Eve Online doesn't have a publisher.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#23 - 2013-06-18 06:05:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
Hesod Adee wrote:
Akita T wrote:
1. No matter how much the fine print on the XBox One sucks, a huge number of people will still buy it anyway. [...]

Only if it has the exclusives. Treat developers badly, they won't make you games. If developers don't make games for the gaming platform, it will die.

Even if they get nothing else truly worthwhile as an exclusive (which is doubtful, as the "VIP developers" WILL be treated nicely enough), the Halo franchise alone will sell a good number of units already, with its rabid fanboy following.

Underwhelming hardware, silly restrictions, treating some devs badly, that's still not quite enough to tank it.
XB360 already was heavily outperformed by PS3, yet it still stayed on par sales-wide. Devs were already treated worse by Microsoft (not so much for those that committed to exclusives, but that's kind of the point). And the PS3 was and still is less restrictive than the XB360, so not even that is a big surprise.

So what really changed exactly from the XB360-vs-PS3 days to this upcoming XB1-vs-PS4 debacle ?
They're actually closer in terms of performance now, and Microsoft is putting even more restrictions than usual, but other than that, everything else looks quite similar to what we got used to for the past 8 years.
Again, basically, not that much of a chance for a long-term upset, even if nothing changes from what we already know.

Sure, the HARDCORE gamers probably will go in a vast majority to PS4, but that's a cup in a bucket, not the majority of the bucket.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#24 - 2013-06-18 06:10:57 UTC
Microsoft fanboy here.

Preordereed a PS4 yesterday, and my new phone is Android.... Help me please, I don't know what to do, I installed Debian Mint on my laptop.... I'm scared if I don't watch my desktop will be soon too Shocked

Helppppp meeeeee.....

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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#25 - 2013-06-18 06:18:28 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
Microsoft fanboy here..

Error: inaccurate terminology detected. To be a fanboy you must utterly ignore reality and focus exclusively on the good parts.
At most, given your description, I would recommend something like a "ex Microsoft convenience user" as far as self-descriptions go.
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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-06-18 08:08:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Muad 'dib
Kirjava wrote:
Microsoft fanboy here.

Preordereed a PS4 yesterday, and my new phone is Android.... Help me please, I don't know what to do, I installed Debian Mint on my laptop.... I'm scared if I don't watch my desktop will be soon too Shocked

Helppppp meeeeee.....



There is still hope for you yet

Now when you pause when you go past an apple store and think "ohhh that would look lovely in my new fully plastic Ikea kitchen" RUN RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN

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Cyrus Alabel
Azure Wrath
#27 - 2013-06-19 15:37:32 UTC
Confirming CCP has a magic crystal ball that allows them to divine the future of gaming.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-06-19 15:47:38 UTC
Cyrus Alabel wrote:
Confirming CCP has a magic crystal ball that allows them to divine the future of gaming.


Running an MMO for ten years?

Average MMO lasts..... few years max?

Id say they do have a magical crystal ball, yes :)

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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
#29 - 2013-06-19 15:55:23 UTC
Well, I have to say..

I always supported MS and the xbox, well, the Playstation has finally surpassed it.

Good job I'm sticking to playing on the PC tbh.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#30 - 2013-06-20 02:56:55 UTC
Well what with the Xbox One doing a 180 and removing all DRM and region locks due to the epic shitstorm its got to be said that since gaming went mainstream the consequence has been a more flighty customer base than the hardcore crowd.

Looks like a 2 horse race and if I'm not much mistaken PS4 now has worse DRM than the XB1 since MS backtracked.

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Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-06-20 07:24:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Knights Armament
I keep hearing this conspiracy about CCP needing sony money, first of all we have no idea if CCP got money from sony, how much,etc. Secondly we don't know if sony is taking a cut out of the pay 2 win features of failure 514, thirdly from looking at the game engine, and graphics it must have been fairly cheap to develop. I'd like to make one last point, CCP is making money from eve online they already have 450 employees, I am pretty sure that these employees are on payroll, so the myth that they needed money is that.

You can tell by the incarnia update most of the station walking stuff came from dust 514 development, so they used EvE dev time to work on dust, and then imported dust features to eve, and it doesn't bother me. I think CCP will eventually integrate both games, maybe we'll be able to have atmospheric flights and pvp on the ground.
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