EVE General Discussion

so the AB took like 10 seconds off the warp time(compared to normal orca align time?)

because the thanatos has like a 28s align time. shortening that by 10s would be 18s align time I might be able to live with that

Use sentries, they are better. Jump is instant, and you never use cap during ratting anyhow. You are also further from the spawn except with gardes. This means you have plenty of time to react on neutrals.

Sentry thanatos fit:
• 5 drone damage
• random low, I use inertia stab
• 2 sebo
• 3 omnitrack
• 5 drone control
• 3 drone control range rig

Pvp convertible:
Ccc rigs, 3 drone control, 2 drone link.

WTF is this thread.

Only safe way to rat in a carrier is to stream it on Twitch.tv!

Link your stream in your BIO

Same goes for people that mine and all sorts of roams gangs.

Based on my calculations which includes the fact that 100MN prop mods are only about 10%-15% effective on carrier-sized ships, a single 10 second pulse of a 100MN MWD is not enough to accelerate a carrier to warping speed. In fact, 2 pulses may not even be enough without some agility boosting.

Buy a Deadspace MWD that has tiny (or none at all if you're spacerich) penalties.

how much isk worth of fuel do you burn in a jump?



lets assume im ratting using sentries so just sitting in one spot aligned and all I need is to reach velocity. A 10s cycle of AB is going to add x amount of velocity. When the cycle is finished ill need to accelerate on my own to reach 75% velocity.

A carrier has like a 28s align on its own

A MWD can get the job done in one 10s cycle and thats probably overkill. Probably at 8s if it were to turn off you would still have the velocity needed to warp

An AB is going to be somewhere in between. 20s warp out....15?

Maybe the orca is such a giant beast that its a bad test case for the AB.

Let's do the math. A Nidhoggur (lowest mass carrier) has a mass of 1,014,750 tons. If we add the 50k ton mass the 100MN MWD adds when active, then that MWD will be 150000 / 1064750 = about 14.1% effective, meaning the MWD will only increase the max velocity of the Archon by 5 * .141 = 70.5%. To reach 75% of its base speed, it has to reach 0.75 / 1.705 = 44% of it's MWD speed.

Base inertia modifier of the Nidhoggur is 0.046. With the typical skills of a carrier pilot, that should reduce to 0.01863. Using the acceleration formula, the amount of time to reach 44% MWD speed from 0 would be 11.5 seconds, which is just a bit longer than a single MWD cycle. After a 10 second cycle started at 0 velocity, it would take about 5 more seconds of normal acceleration to hit warp velocity. A better way to go would be to let the ship accelerate for 3 or so seconds before activating the MWD and you'd be golden.

None of the other carriers are going to beat the Nidhoggur here in overall performance with this tactic. The Chimera is technically slightly more maneuverable, but it has the most mass of any carrier, and that has a big influence on the effectiveness of this tactic.



I wouldn't expect an AB to offer much value here. The tiny boost in speed it would give you only barely makes up for the reduced acceleration it's mass addition would create.



Carriers are more maneuverable than Orcas, but they are also significantly more massive which is the most important factor when determining the performance of a prop mod.

Your acceleration decreases the closer to your max velocity you are. Thus, it will take you less time to gain X speed from 0 than it would from some other positive non-zero velocity.

Remove local and this won't be an issue.