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Eve Gate in New Eden
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AteTheGrapes DieDrake
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-18 22:14:29 UTC
I recently started playing Eve, and I finally got around to visiting the system of the original gate. It's a sight to see, to be sure, but nothing much else is going on there. Well, I have an idea for this particular gate. What if:

You could actually burn for the gate and reach it within a reasonable amount of time (hours? days?). Once there, it would be possible for you to jump through the gate -- back to where we all came from. You would "arrive" shipless, on Earth. There may not be much there, you may even only get to visit the wreckage of Earth, so it wouldn't become too overly popular -- but it would be a fantastic tourist destination. :)

I don't think any resources or moons should be available to players, just a fascinating site to go along with the history of Eve, and give you a chance to experience the first jump again. Maybe your ship will be held within the gate, so when you return to New Eden, you are again in a ship. Or something like that.

I went from one side of Empire to the other just to see the gate, and I think anyone else who does this would also enjoy the adventure of actually traveling through the first gate, even if for no other reason than to enjoy the adventure.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#2 - 2013-06-18 22:33:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Winter Archipelago
It has actually never been explicitly stated that Earth was destroyed, nor that the original wormhole that lead to the EvE Gate was even anywhere remotely near Earth.

Myself, I get the feeling that The Gate is being held onto by the devs for something big in the future; the story behind the EvE universe is continuous and expanding all the time, and with things changing the way they are at this present point in time (Empires losing control of the Capsuleers, Capsuleer corporations and alliances rivaling the power of the Empires, and the growing strength of the Capsuleers in general, combined with the new implants to allow the transfer of consciousness between bodies without the use of our pods), it could indeed be something absolutely huge and incredible in the future. No need to neuter a potentially-awesome thing just to view some wreckage.

That is all, of course, just some of my own opinions and speculations.

Be warned, you aren't the first to suggest something like this, either, so be prepared for quite a few people to potentially flame you for it, including the usual group whose only contribution to humanity is to point out that we have an Ideas and Suggestions board.

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iSupremacy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-18 23:09:04 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
It has actually never been explicitly stated that Earth was destroyed, nor that the original wormhole that lead to the EvE Gate was even anywhere remotely near Earth.



The EVE gate on the other side is located in the Canopus Solar system. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canopus

In popular culture

The book series Canopus in Argos by Nobel Prize in Literature-winning author Doris Lessing which portray a number of societies at different stages of development, over a great period of time. The focus is on accelerated evolution being aided by advanced species for less advanced species and societies.

The fictional desert planet Arrakis featured in the Dune series of novels by Frank Herbert is the third planet orbiting Canopus.

In the MMORPG Eve Online, the titular wormhole that led to the galaxy in which the player's experience takes place was located in the Canopus system.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#4 - 2013-06-18 23:25:00 UTC
iSupremacy wrote:
Winter Archipelago wrote:
It has actually never been explicitly stated that Earth was destroyed, nor that the original wormhole that lead to the EvE Gate was even anywhere remotely near Earth.



The EVE gate on the other side is located in the Canopus Solar system. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canopus

In popular culture

The book series Canopus in Argos by Nobel Prize in Literature-winning author Doris Lessing which portray a number of societies at different stages of development, over a great period of time. The focus is on accelerated evolution being aided by advanced species for less advanced species and societies.

The fictional desert planet Arrakis featured in the Dune series of novels by Frank Herbert is the third planet orbiting Canopus.

In the MMORPG Eve Online, the titular wormhole that led to the galaxy in which the player's experience takes place was located in the Canopus system.


And Canopus is approximately 310 lightyears from Earth which, while being rather close on an astronomical scale, is pretty far away.

... OK, so I said "remotely near" which is technically incorrect in this case. Touche!

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Litair
Nleesh
#5 - 2013-06-19 01:23:19 UTC
Wait what? I have been trying to explore the empty fringes of space, but I've never encountered this gate before in my many years of existence. I must seek it out as the next adventure and feel the historical/lore'ical rush of an important place like that. Would be quite interesting if they opening it up for travel in the meantime :p

But really one of the things I like most about EVE is the lore and history of it, even though it tends to be very superficial - but just something like the strange sleepers in unknown wormhole space has some of that eerie mystical feeling to them.. would be pretty cool if they put a bit more effort into the story/lore/eve universe thing, and the origin of it all is surely something to touch on as well. To give all of the sandboxing some perspective and meaning.
GreenSeed
#6 - 2013-06-19 01:34:39 UTC
you can find it on your in game map, along with a few other rather interesting places to visit.

if you do go there, don't forget to drop an anchorable can and leave proof of your visit for other pilgrims.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#7 - 2013-06-19 01:35:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Everyone has to go see the Eve gate WH at least once. Because its a rather dead end pointless system down there it is a common way of introducing new players to lowsec. Ie, get in a fast ship, don't stop jumping and go visit the Eve gate.

There are some great little tourist attractions down in that constellation. Like the massive black monolith.

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DauntlessK
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-19 01:39:21 UTC
The whole premise of New Eden and its creation (the collapse of all the empires and the rising of the few that we have left) is based upon the fact that EVE was cut off from the milky way and they don't even really know where New Eden is (in relation to the Milky Way) let alone anything else. If connection was reestablished you'd have a different game.

In the books, there is tons of terran wreckage lurking in the dangerous area near the gate, most of which lies cloaked because the jovians do not want anyone else to find it.

Also in the books, ancient Terra (I enjoy calling it that, thanks to 40k) is pretty much a legend to almost everyone, if they even know of it all. We are talking about the year 20,000 or so, dealing with hundreds of generations after even the gate collapsed. So how would these primitive civilizations which evolved into the empires we know today even remember that? Almost everything had to be relearned. So basically, Earth as you know it, is pretty much completely forgotten and unknown but to only a few.

Anyway, there defintely should be more touristy attractions, I agree.
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#9 - 2013-06-19 02:42:50 UTC
DauntlessK wrote:
The whole premise of New Eden and its creation (the collapse of all the empires and the rising of the few that we have left) is based upon the fact that EVE was cut off from the milky way and they don't even really know where New Eden is (in relation to the Milky Way) let alone anything else. If connection was reestablished you'd have a different game.

In the books, there is tons of terran wreckage lurking in the dangerous area near the gate, most of which lies cloaked because the jovians do not want anyone else to find it.

Also in the books, ancient Terra (I enjoy calling it that, thanks to 40k) is pretty much a legend to almost everyone, if they even know of it all. We are talking about the year 20,000 or so, dealing with hundreds of generations after even the gate collapsed. So how would these primitive civilizations which evolved into the empires we know today even remember that? Almost everything had to be relearned. So basically, Earth as you know it, is pretty much completely forgotten and unknown but to only a few.

Anyway, there defintely should be more touristy attractions, I agree.

Also: according to the books there are massive amounts of radiation and strange gravitational disturbances all around the gate making it near impossible to fly there.
Litair
Nleesh
#10 - 2013-06-19 02:48:53 UTC
Setaceous wrote:
DauntlessK wrote:
The whole premise of New Eden and its creation (the collapse of all the empires and the rising of the few that we have left) is based upon the fact that EVE was cut off from the milky way and they don't even really know where New Eden is (in relation to the Milky Way) let alone anything else. If connection was reestablished you'd have a different game.

In the books, there is tons of terran wreckage lurking in the dangerous area near the gate, most of which lies cloaked because the jovians do not want anyone else to find it.

Also in the books, ancient Terra (I enjoy calling it that, thanks to 40k) is pretty much a legend to almost everyone, if they even know of it all. We are talking about the year 20,000 or so, dealing with hundreds of generations after even the gate collapsed. So how would these primitive civilizations which evolved into the empires we know today even remember that? Almost everything had to be relearned. So basically, Earth as you know it, is pretty much completely forgotten and unknown but to only a few.

Anyway, there defintely should be more touristy attractions, I agree.

Also: according to the books there are massive amounts of radiation and strange gravitational disturbances all around the gate making it near impossible to fly there.


We got cheap clones now though, so it should be no problem jumping in a shuttle and giving it a go!
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#11 - 2013-06-19 04:12:31 UTC
Stetson Eagle
Paird Technology
#12 - 2013-06-19 05:08:08 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Everyone has to go see the Eve gate WH at least once. Because its a rather dead end pointless system down there it is a common way of introducing new players to lowsec. Ie, get in a fast ship, don't stop jumping and go visit the Eve gate.

There are some great little tourist attractions down in that constellation. Like the massive black monolith.


Earth, mars, NewEden... The monoliths are humanity's main quest givers.
Chamile Eonic
The Church of MDAMC
#13 - 2013-06-19 08:29:19 UTC
The eve gate is like Dr Who.

We all want to know his name, but deep down we know it would only result in disappointment.
Dilligafmofo
3WAYFOUNDATIONS
New Miner's Union
#14 - 2013-06-19 08:57:57 UTC
2 years on and CCP can't get a door to open. How long would it take to open the Eve gate? Roll
Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#15 - 2013-06-19 09:03:16 UTC
Having the Eve Gate open would be a pretty big lore tidal wave... if Earth still exists, they'd come through and completely own EVERYONE.

Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-06-19 09:03:22 UTC
Chamile Eonic wrote:
The eve gate is like Dr Who.

We all want to know his name, but deep down we know it would only result in disappointment.

It's Charles Jameson
Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-06-19 10:26:17 UTC
DauntlessK wrote:
The whole premise of New Eden and its creation (the collapse of all the empires and the rising of the few that we have left) is based upon the fact that EVE was cut off from the milky way and they don't even really know where New Eden is (in relation to the Milky Way) let alone anything else. If connection was reestablished you'd have a different game.

In the books, there is tons of terran wreckage lurking in the dangerous area near the gate, most of which lies cloaked because the jovians do not want anyone else to find it.

Also in the books, ancient Terra (I enjoy calling it that, thanks to 40k) is pretty much a legend to almost everyone, if they even know of it all. We are talking about the year 20,000 or so, dealing with hundreds of generations after even the gate collapsed. So how would these primitive civilizations which evolved into the empires we know today even remember that? Almost everything had to be relearned. So basically, Earth as you know it, is pretty much completely forgotten and unknown but to only a few.

Anyway, there defintely should be more touristy attractions, I agree.


I suspect New Eden is in either the inner or outer Magellanic cloud. Both clouds have over 10 billion stars/systems, and new eden is only 7,000 systems strong.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#18 - 2013-06-19 11:02:59 UTC
I found you a super old Chribba post: http://eve-search.com/thread/373791/author/Chribba (thread is ok, but a lot of nonsense in it)