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How to deal with this

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Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#21 - 2013-06-18 14:01:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tinu Moorhsum
Max Godsnottlingson wrote:


Actually, I think this is where I am getting annoyed with myself. Some of the guys have posted me some good ideas for POS defences, so now I am annoyed that I took the easy way out and 'up sticks', when I should have said "Bring it on!" as I strapped more ECM and gun onto the tower


My first thought when I read the OP was to think that for some reason they wanted your moon and they flexed to see if you would move....

Personally my attitude about it has always been to bat-phone my friends and contact the aggressors saying, "come and get it" . In almost the same time it took you to remove your POS you could have upgraded to a dickstar or a death-star.....

9 times out of 10 they will respond with a half hearted attempt geared more at saving face than actually taking down your POS and if you DO lift up the veil a bit and show them who your friends are then most will back down. (at least in my case. I have good friends who could fist you so deep that they could open and close your mouth like a sock puppet).

That said. I've also lost at least one POS like that (maybe more than one LOL) but my ego would rather lose 1 POS in 10 than back down from someone who walks into me to see if my fontanelle is closed. This is EVE online, not OMGRUNTHEYAREGOINGTOEATME online. It's just isk. the experience of fighting back is more valuable.
Max Godsnottlingson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-06-18 14:05:52 UTC
Tinu Moorhsum wrote:
Max Godsnottlingson wrote:


Actually, I think this is where I am getting annoyed with myself. Some of the guys have posted me some good ideas for POS defences, so now I am annoyed that I took the easy way out and 'up sticks', when I should have said "Bring it on!" as I strapped more ECM and gun onto the tower


My first thought when I read the OP was to think that for some reason they wanted your moon and the flexed to see if you would move....

Personally my attitude about it has always been to bat-phone my friends and contact the aggressors saying, "come and get it" . IN almost the same time it took you to remove your POS you could have upgraded to a ****-star or a death-star.....

9 times out of 10 they will respond with a half hearted attempt geared more at saving face than actually taking down your POS and if you DO lift up the veil a bit and show them who your friends are then most will back down. (at least in my case. I have good friends who could fist you so deep that they could open and close your mouth like a sock puppet).

That said. I've also lost at least one POS like that (maybe more than one LOL) but my ego would rather lose 1 POS in 10 than back down from someone who walks into me to see if my fontanelle is closed. This is EVE online, not OMGRUNTHEYAREGOINGTOEATME online. It's just isk. the experience of fighting back is more valuable.


As I say, that is the one thing that I am realy beating myself up over. I should never have pulled down the POS.
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#23 - 2013-06-18 14:29:39 UTC
Max Godsnottlingson wrote:
As I say, that is the one thing that I am realy beating myself up over. I should never have pulled down the POS.


This is totally off topic but I've had an experience like this in real life too. (if you don't like RL then stop reading here).

It was in 1989 in Zambia. I was in Lusaka in the main market. They had just come off the heels of a war and there was literally nothing in the markets. Some lettuce, some tomatoes, some cooked chicken.... not even bread. Lusaka was a city of about a million (I think) at the time and they were being serviced by one (count 'em) one baker.

I've done a lot of stupid **** in my life but walking around in that market alone, being the only westerner in the whole wide area, and carrying a backpack... well..... I was asking for trouble, even if I didn't know it.

At some point I had the feeling that a group of young men were following me. I made twists and turns and even stepped between two kiosks in the market to try giving them the slip but every time I checked out of the corner of my eye they were there.

This is the point where Tinu's real life person and my in-game personna intersect. I thought. "well **** me. they're going to try to mug my ass.... fine but not without paying the price!"

But obviously they didn't care to do it while i was actually IN the market. so I walked to the edge of the market where there was an open field and started crossing it like I had to go to the other side.

Little did they know that I had many years of recent Kung-fu training under my (black) belt and unless they had a gun, this was going to hurt.

I walked about 20m into the field and turned around. 3 of the guys who were following me were right behind me.

They didn't know what to do when I turned around so I took the initiative. I took off my backpack, threw it on the ground in front of my and said, "If you want it, come and get it" .

They scattered like pigeons LOL.

Jayka Kyer
Eternal Chaos.
#24 - 2013-06-18 18:34:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayka Kyer
edit - messed up my post some how
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#25 - 2013-06-18 19:21:32 UTC
Jayka Kyer wrote:
edit - messed up my post some how


In fact, that wasn't the only time that day that someone tried to mug me. About 2 hours after the experience I wrote about above, I was walking into a large open public space and a couple of guys "tackled" me in a corner and pinned me against the wall.

I could feel hands going into my pockets and I could hear the zip of my backpack being opened before the resistence of an arm digging in.

My survival reflexes took over. I didn't even think about what I was doing. I think it took about 3 seconds before I .... er.... "pacified" one of them. I'll never forget the "crack" or my guilt about how I hurt him. The other one was bigger than I was and used his weight to push me down into a corner with no room to manoeuvre. I managed to get a hand free and used a "chin na" attack to get him to back off...... but it wasn't looking good.

About that time 2 police or security people "landed" on him and took over. The guy started screaming "sorry sorry sorry" and acting like it was some kind of mistake. He wanted to give me the blame for over reacting.....

I let the police deal with him and just walked away.

Max Godsnottlingson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-06-18 20:15:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Godsnottlingson
lol Tinu, your stories remind me of something that happened where I live back in the 80's. A couple of guys tried to sue an old lady.
After they had tried to mug her, one woke up with a concusion and the other had a dislocated shoulder and bust elbow.

Turned out that the 'little old lady' used to be thrown out of aeroplanes over occupied Europe back in the 40's and had been taught to do all sorts of nasty things to people.

Thankfully back then,in the UK, we didn't have the suing culture that we have today and their claim was laughed out as they got 'sent down' themselves. Sadly today it would probably have been the little old lady sent down while they got a pat on the head
Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-06-19 06:17:10 UTC
Max Godsnottlingson wrote:
I have 9 of them on my watch list, from doing an intel search of kill boards and the like


http://evewho.com/

This site is pretty good for finding out corp members.
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
#28 - 2013-06-19 06:20:43 UTC
Put up a POS in lowsec.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#29 - 2013-06-26 11:14:32 UTC
I disagree on a few points with you Max. While I understand this is inconvenient and frustrating to no end, I'd like to make a case for it's validity. Corporations are groups, their mechanics are intended to cover group activities and achieve group-based objectives. You are trying to achieve these same things solo, without the capacity to defend your investment really well. You are tapping into gameplay one scale above the intended level (corporate) playing solo. For the record: doing these things is what makes a sandbox a sandbox, so you are doing nothing wrong. But neither are those gunning for your POS!

My advice would be to train the skills needed to manually control your POS guns. If you have a lot of time to play, there's a high chance you will be online when it's truly under attack. The AI on those guns is terrible, manual control makes POS defenses far better because you can focus fire.
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