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mining isnt cutting it suggest something new for me please

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Oskold Olgidar
SpaceX inc
#1 - 2013-06-19 01:13:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Oskold Olgidar
So was looking for serious suggestions on a new path for me to make isk. Mining just isn't cutting it for me. Here is a link to my skills. So you may better decided what my character what be best suited for me. Skills to pay the bills I have thought about getting into manufacturing combat boosters but am not sure on this. Also on the 1st i will have 4billion isk to invest in what ever i decided to do.
Hae Sung
#2 - 2013-06-19 02:33:42 UTC
Your character doesn't have enough skill points in any one direction aside from mining to really point you in a particular direction. What is it about mining that you don't like? The isk/hour or the mind numbing slowness of it or something else?

Industry/Manufacturing will require Production Efficiency to V
Station Trading is a low-sp requirement but isn't for everyone - although you're not far from it
Exploration has a low threshold for entry these days.

Combat-wise you could really go any direction you wanted to go since you don't have much invested in any particular direction. FW is a direction I like to recommend for people who want to try pvp in smaller ships to learn, but it will require patience as you're starting from a lower sp level.

Any of these seem interesting?
Grandma Squirel
#3 - 2013-06-19 02:37:21 UTC
I recommend abandoning your carebear ways, and getting your pew on. Take 500m and join one of the relatively open recruiting groups to get some experience and a kill board history while training utility pvp skills. Then leverage that to get into a corp/alliance with a good SRP program. Invest another 1B or so in doctrine ships, and you either have 2B left to get into a carrier or to supplement SRP for a very long time.
Oskold Olgidar
SpaceX inc
#4 - 2013-06-19 04:09:55 UTC
Hae Sung wrote:
Your character doesn't have enough skill points in any one direction aside from mining to really point you in a particular direction. What is it about mining that you don't like? The isk/hour or the mind numbing slowness of it or something else?

Industry/Manufacturing will require Production Efficiency to V
Station Trading is a low-sp requirement but isn't for everyone - although you're not far from it
Exploration has a low threshold for entry these days.

Combat-wise you could really go any direction you wanted to go since you don't have much invested in any particular direction. FW is a direction I like to recommend for people who want to try pvp in smaller ships to learn, but it will require patience as you're starting from a lower sp level.

Any of these seem interesting?

mining bothers me because its slow and the isk per hour sucks imo. Tried to get into manufacturing that's why i have pe 4. But wasn't making isk fast enough for me. Drug manufacturing seems interesting to me and just manufacturing in general but couldn't seem to get the hang of it last time.
RonPaul Rox
Prime Directive.
United Caldari Space Command.
#5 - 2013-06-19 04:13:48 UTC
if you want isk AND fun on the same low sp character, there are few better ways than faction warfare.

i have a 2 week old alt with 250,000 fw lp... the conversion ratio is around 1LP = 2000 isk

on this char i mostly just do fw pvp, which leads me to my next point...



at your low sp level, dont try to solo anyone, you will get owned and frustrated.

farm LP in a cloaky stabbed frigate and run/cloak when someone shows up on short d-scan

PvP in fleets - join a fw PLAYER corp and try not to screw anything up :)


you're welcome :)

http://imgur.com/EGjYLSL

Civ Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-19 13:04:16 UTC
Grandma Squirel wrote:
I recommend abandoning your carebear ways, and getting your pew on. Take 500m and join one of the relatively open recruiting groups to get some experience and a kill board history while training utility pvp skills. Then leverage that to get into a corp/alliance with a good SRP program. Invest another 1B or so in doctrine ships, and you either have 2B left to get into a carrier or to supplement SRP for a very long time.

Sure, let me pull more isk out of my ass while I'm at it.
Haulie Berry
#7 - 2013-06-19 14:44:27 UTC
Civ Kado wrote:
Grandma Squirel wrote:
I recommend abandoning your carebear ways, and getting your pew on. Take 500m and join one of the relatively open recruiting groups to get some experience and a kill board history while training utility pvp skills. Then leverage that to get into a corp/alliance with a good SRP program. Invest another 1B or so in doctrine ships, and you either have 2B left to get into a carrier or to supplement SRP for a very long time.

Sure, let me pull more isk out of my ass while I'm at it.


That 500m will last you ages when you're learning, because you shouldn't be flying anything much beyond frigates and destroyers.
Oskold Olgidar
SpaceX inc
#8 - 2013-06-19 18:13:23 UTC
This char is actually used to fund my main pvp charatcher, and yes right now all i fly is frigates and i mainly solo pvp. Im just trying to figure out how to make more isk then mining.
Mara Villoso
Long Jump.
#9 - 2013-06-19 18:30:01 UTC
You're in the perfect position to ransom your corp by means of AWOX. That's one place to start making ISK using the skills and assets you already possess.
Reuben Johnson
Gal-Min Industries
#10 - 2013-06-19 20:51:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Reuben Johnson
Oskold Olgidar wrote:

mining bothers me because its slow and the isk per hour sucks imo. Tried to get into manufacturing that's why i have pe 4. But wasn't making isk fast enough for me. Drug manufacturing seems interesting to me and just manufacturing in general but couldn't seem to get the hang of it last time.


So you want to get out of mining becuase it's slow, boring tedious and slow isk turner...and get into manufacturing...which is even slower (dont even undock), more tedious (ship spinning, YAY!) and one of the slowest isk turners in the game (2 months later and half my stuff is STILL waiting to be sold?)?

Sounds like what you really want is a PvP alt for PvP main
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-06-19 20:54:05 UTC
Reuben Johnson wrote:
(2 months later and half my stuff is STILL waiting to be sold?)?


If it's a surprise to you that it's taken 2 months to sell, it's probably because you didn't research your market to see what kind of volume you could expect to sell.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#12 - 2013-06-19 21:04:26 UTC
Starting PVP

Find corp with people who you are 100% sure wont blow you up within the first month.

step 2
50 fully fitted frigs, 10 fully fitted cruisers and 2 larger ships whatever you can afford.

step 3
Pick fights and learn how to properly shittalk, just not fun without it.

Step 4
settle into the new low/nul system and continue to carebare except, now you have FFFFLOADSOFFUN and make 10X the isk
Reuben Johnson
Gal-Min Industries
#13 - 2013-06-19 21:07:16 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
Reuben Johnson wrote:
(2 months later and half my stuff is STILL waiting to be sold?)?


If it's a surprise to you that it's taken 2 months to sell, it's probably because you didn't research your market to see what kind of volume you could expect to sell.

mm, yes, just my point..spending 9 hours a day waiting for youre 6 toons to download to Eve Central, then spending another 4 hours day drooling over the spreadsheets is sooo much better then mining. Hell, you get 10 hours of "gameplay" without even logging in yet..soo awesome.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-06-19 21:21:05 UTC
Reuben Johnson wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Reuben Johnson wrote:
(2 months later and half my stuff is STILL waiting to be sold?)?


If it's a surprise to you that it's taken 2 months to sell, it's probably because you didn't research your market to see what kind of volume you could expect to sell.

mm, yes, just my point..spending 9 hours a day waiting for youre 6 toons to download to Eve Central, then spending another 4 hours day drooling over the spreadsheets is sooo much better then mining. Hell, you get 10 hours of "gameplay" without even logging in yet..soo awesome.


I'm guessing if you think about it that way, you've never done it. Because it's nothing like that.
Ginger Barbarella
#15 - 2013-06-19 23:48:59 UTC
If you've got zero skills the only way you're gonna make isk is to buy/sell GTCs/PLEX. I suggest you get the core skills for frigate/dessie pvp up and get into FW: plex in quiet systems, get to know people, cash in the FW LP for faction swag, sell, make money for better ships and stuff. It takes money to get into industry and market activities, and if you ain't got it, don't bother. And no, you can't start with T1 Ammo manufacturing any more: the margin is almost non-existent as to be a waste of time.

You can try getting into L4's missions, salvage everything, use the salvage to build T1 rigs, sell in out-of-the-way system (not in Jita, for god's sake), and that can help line the wallet. Get into PI with stuff like Coolant for easy cash, or Robotics if you have 5 planets to build a chain with. It only takes (about) 15 minutes per day (I do 24-48 hour cycles), decent passive isk, even in high sec. If you have access to quiet low sec with accessible POCOs, use those for the scarcer materials, dive in occasionally with a Blockade Runner, and get back to high sec.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Ginger Barbarella
#16 - 2013-06-19 23:51:40 UTC
Reuben Johnson wrote:
Victoria Sin wrote:
Reuben Johnson wrote:
(2 months later and half my stuff is STILL waiting to be sold?)?


If it's a surprise to you that it's taken 2 months to sell, it's probably because you didn't research your market to see what kind of volume you could expect to sell.

mm, yes, just my point..spending 9 hours a day waiting for youre 6 toons to download to Eve Central, then spending another 4 hours day drooling over the spreadsheets is sooo much better then mining. Hell, you get 10 hours of "gameplay" without even logging in yet..soo awesome.


Great, someone else posting in a thread with no idea what he's talking about. Gotta love internet forums.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#17 - 2013-06-20 01:29:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
I suspect the OP should visit the Market Discussion forum and invest at 5% per month or higher with the 4b ISK.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#18 - 2013-06-20 09:30:17 UTC
Mara Villoso wrote:
You're in the perfect position to ransom your corp by means of AWOX. That's one place to start making ISK using the skills and assets you already possess.


This.

No reason you can't hold a billion in assets hostage. Ask for a 400-500m ransom and honor it.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-06-20 10:22:29 UTC  |  Edited by: P3po
Manufacturing is not fun, but it is making ISK with low effort.

If you put lot of effort, you can make lot of ISK. You can easily do 20B per month as solo player inventing and selling T2 ships (selling in hours, not months like this guy posting above). But hmm ... maybe the 4B is not enough to start the business. But you can do T2 ammo which requires low ammount of start ISK.

Skill for tengu and go hunt anomalies. You can do 100-120M per hour in medium skilled tengu. Farm the anoms for a while and invest the money in manufacturing.

Or join some 0.0 corp with POCOs and go for PI. For me, this is the most boring thing in EVE, but I know people who run planets often and they like it. There is also lots of free ISK in that.
Oskold Olgidar
SpaceX inc
#20 - 2013-06-21 16:45:40 UTC
another thing i was thinking about is maybe buying a hulk pilot off the forums, and running with a orca and a hulk to get my isk. I believe you can find decent mining character's for like 2.5 billion isk. Then just taking that isk i make and putting it into manufacturing.
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