These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

My Drake has low tank, advise needed...
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Amnesiaa Haze
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-06-18 23:03:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Amnesiaa Haze
Mostly T2 cookie cutter HAM Drake for PvP

I have low tank, and don't see any clear path on how to reach that 80k/90k total HP I hear people talking about.

I'm currently sitting at
Shield: 15000 HP / 1216 s
Armor: 3900 HP
Structure: 4312 HP

25000 HP Total

Please take a look at my skills, and point out what I'm lacking and need to focus on in order to get that beasty tank everybody else seems to have,
Here's my character sheet and skills: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Amnesiaa_Haze

Thanks
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-06-18 23:04:40 UTC
Amnesiaa Haze wrote:
Mostly T2 cookie cutter HAM Drake for PvP

I have low tank, and don't see any clear path on how to reach that 80k/90k total HP I hear people talking about.

I'm currently sitting at
Shield: 15000 HP / 1216 s
Armor: 3900 HP
Structure: 4312 HP

25000 HP Total

Please take a look at my skills, and point out what I'm lacking and need to focus on in order to get that beasty tank everybody else seems to have,
Here's my character sheet and skills: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Amnesiaa_Haze

Thanks

What they are talking about is EHP, not raw tank numbers. It's the values of your tank with resistances factored in.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-18 23:04:49 UTC
They're talking about EHP, which takes resists in to account.

This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal, proud member of the popular gay hookup site somethingawful.com, Spelling Bee, Grammar Gestapo & #1 Official Gevlon Goblin Fanclub member.
Korg Leaf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-06-18 23:04:59 UTC
80/90k!?! Back in my day we were happy to have 45k!
Amnesiaa Haze
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-06-18 23:06:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Amnesiaa Haze
Mallak Azaria wrote:
They're talking about EHP, which takes resists in to account.

You're right.

EHP is what I had in mind and heard people talkng about, just a lack of understanding... how do I determine my EHP?
Mia Restolo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-06-18 23:07:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mia Restolo
Korg Leaf wrote:
80/90k!?! Back in my day we were happy to have 45k!


'E'HP as above... and what this guys said.

*edit: use EFT or other fitting tool
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-06-18 23:08:33 UTC
Amnesiaa Haze wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
They're talking about EHP, which takes resists in to account.

You're right.

EHP is what I had in mind, just a lack of understanding... how do I determine my EHP?

Unless you feel like ******* with some rather convoluted math, the easiest way would be to use EFT or EveHQ and plug your fit in there.
Amnesiaa Haze
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-06-18 23:10:08 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Amnesiaa Haze wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
They're talking about EHP, which takes resists in to account.

You're right.

EHP is what I had in mind, just a lack of understanding... how do I determine my EHP?

Unless you feel like ******* with some rather convoluted math, the easiest way would be to use EFT or EveHQ and plug your fit in there.


Thanks.

And to the other guys for enlightening me too.

o7
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#9 - 2013-06-18 23:17:41 UTC
Also look up pyfa. I'm not sure if EFT has been updated for Odyssey but pyfa has.

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Berluth Luthian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-06-19 00:12:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Berluth Luthian
Below is a classic raven fit (battleship) that could be a nice template for your Drake. Just step everything back one.

Originally by: Artryder
My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I

You are minmatar fool! Fly the cane! So much versitility especially the rep.fleet.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#11 - 2013-06-19 00:13:32 UTC
Just stuff the mids and lows with shield and armor mods and run NOS in all the high slots.


You'll still get kill mails. Don't worry.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#12 - 2013-06-19 00:14:12 UTC
Berluth Luthian wrote:
Below is a classic raven fit (battleship) that could be a nice template for your Drake. Just step everything back one.

Originally by: Artryder
My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I


Bad forum poster! No!!!! *Smacks with a newspaper*

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-06-19 00:14:13 UTC
Berluth Luthian wrote:
Below is a classic raven fit (battleship) that could be a nice template for your Drake. Just step everything back one.

Originally by: Artryder
My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I

You are minmatar fool! Fly the cane! So much versitility especially the rep.fleet.

Uhm, when was the last time you flew that fit? o_O
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-19 02:58:54 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Berluth Luthian wrote:
Below is a classic raven fit (battleship) that could be a nice template for your Drake. Just step everything back one.

Originally by: Artryder
My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
01 x HYDRAULIC BAY THRUSTER I

You are minmatar fool! Fly the cane! So much versitility especially the rep.fleet.

Uhm, when was the last time you flew that fit? o_O

I find this fit very effective, my Ravens are fit like this too
Berluth Luthian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-06-19 03:25:39 UTC
Okay now that you have joined the TLF I feel compelled to tell you that my earlier fit is a joke fit. But also it is a waste to pvp in battlecruisers until you know a lot of what to expect in pvp. If you want to try and apply for the corp I'm in we could help, a bit, but try to ask questions in the militia chat as well.

Good luck and trust in rust!
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-06-19 04:11:14 UTC
Nyancat Audeles wrote:
I find this fit very effective, my Ravens are fit like this too


...And warriors need intellect plate = bad fits are b-a-d...

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-06-19 05:09:53 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Amnesiaa Haze wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
They're talking about EHP, which takes resists in to account.

You're right.

EHP is what I had in mind, just a lack of understanding... how do I determine my EHP?

Unless you feel like ******* with some rather convoluted math, the easiest way would be to use EFT or EveHQ and plug your fit in there.

well. it's [HP]/(1-[resist]), i think

but yeah EFT's tops