EVE New Citizens Q&A

Wormholes and exploration are good interesting activities for a duo, that anyone can do and there is a lot of room for making things more interesting and challenging. Both can include PvP activities, so you could do money making activities together and get a taste of some small scale PvP on the side. I don't see how POS skills are relevant with anything you would be doing and the basic POS operation only requires anchoring, so it wouldn't be a big time investment from skill training perspective.

The good thing about exploring and WH diving is, that you can easily manage the risk levels and both activities has enough depth, that you can delve deeper into it, if you find out you like it. They are also decently lucrative activities where a trusted buddy for company and backup is always welcome. WH diving always has the PvP risk element to it, so fit for that possibility in mind and don't fly what you can't afford to lose. With exploration you can do it in safety of highsec, but if you want the PvP and better loot, you can take it to lowsec and 0.0.

As always I would recommend starting with T1 ships, since you don't want to invest a lot in activities you might not find interesting and you can always get killed doing them. This is actually likely, if neither of you have PvP experience or experience flying in 0.0 space in general. With a reasonably fitted T1 ship and a friend you should have no problems doing the basic sites, you can take losses from time to time and your acitvities will easily stay profitable even if you suffer occasional losses.

Thanks for the speedy replies!

I fly mostly Amarr, so I'll fit out a Harbi and we can try diving into a C2 or perhaps even a C3. I'm still not sure about all the logistical challenges of actually moving into one. Like, if we set up a POS won't we need the skills to put guns and whatnot on it? I've been in WH corps before, and our POSes always had all manner of guns and hangars. Are these necessary for a 2-man casual operation?

Yeah, a Harby should be able to do ok in WHs too if properly fit/skilled. I would suggest a C1-2 instead of a C3 if you're in a Harby and don't know what you're doing so well, they have less incoming DPS.

As to the POS, you just need Anchoring 3 or so to anchor all the modules (though you need Anchoring 5 to actually control the guns manually instead of them attacking randomly). And there are two ways to do a POS in a WH.

FIrst, there's the Small POS with minimal fittings, something cheap that you can drop in a WH and live out of and just abandon if you feel it's too risky to pack it up. This works well for short term visits, it's about 100-150M for a small POS and all the fittings you'll need for that. Drop a couple small guns on to deter pot-shots and you should be ok. This setup is vulnerable to a gang coming in and evicting you, but it's meant to be chap and disposable if worst comes to worst (especially effective in C1 WHs where BSes can't get to you). This setup can be put up or taken down in about an hour or two tops.

Second there is the med, or preferably large, tower fitted out with as much guns and ECM and such that you can get on there. This is better suited for long-term inhabitation. It will scare off most would-be attackers. However, it'll likely cost you more like 500M+ to set up, after all the guns and fittings, and will cost much more in fuel. This setup doesn't lend itself to quick evacuation, due to the large amount of modules you have to take down if you want to take them with you.

The third option that people have been known to use, if you have an Orca alt, is you can park the Orca at a safe-spot cloaked and use it to haul ammo/loot for you. Just make sure you scout it well. The Orca can also carry a small POS and a week or two of fuel in case you decide you want a POS shield to park the Orca in.

If you wish to learn about PvP join Red vs Blue.

From the Evelopedia wiki


I wasn't thinking of PVPing in T3 ships. I do know that they're very good at running the sites in wormholes, although expensive and crummy when you lose one (first hand experience on that one ). I like the idea of PVPing in cheap ships until we get the hang of it, but don't really know how to get decent fights rather than gate-camps. Gate camps are easy to find, but would be hard to dismantle with just the two of us.

Can flipping, I guess?

Form a corp. Declare war on other corps at random for 2 million isk a pop. Get your buddy to fly a neut dominix while you fly a harbinger. Entry level wardecs are pretty fun, particularly if you don't have killboard stats scare people out of fighting you.