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Advanced Spaceship Command, general discussion
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Kujo Minowara
Solitary Ground
#21 - 2013-06-18 17:33:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Kujo Minowara
CompleteFailure wrote:


Nope, not negatively criticizing at all.


I can't see how to start a constructive discussion without stating your opinion Big smile I started saying what I think but without any harassing, just to have a general discussion over the topic and to see what people think about it. If you don't have anything to add to the discussion itself you may not answer, there is no cosmic power that forces you to do so if you have nothing to say.


ElQuirko wrote:

Noooooooo, since the removal of Industrial V from freighters has dropped my time to get into an obelisk from three weeks-ish to 18h I think it's a pretty necessary timesink.


I see, but it raised mine to 30 days instead than 1 hour or so =) However, what I was saying is that I don't get the point of having an agility bonus per level instead of having simply more agile ships,when you have to train all the levels to fly any ship you have access with the skill. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.


Aleria Angelis wrote:
Kujo Minowara wrote:
Surely, this means more time training for access to capital ships


That is exactly the point and no it's not too much, its a cap ship they are supposed to have LONG training times.


I understand this, I don't think it should be "easy" to earn access to capital ship hulls. However, I wonder if there could be a more... elegant solution, and more in line with the skill-growing pattern all other skills use.

War Kitten wrote:
If only there was a skills discussion sub forum....


You are absolutely right, I wrote the post in the wrong section, if anyone could move it to skill discussion subforum I think it would fit more there. I'm sorry Sad
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#22 - 2013-06-18 17:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Why not give it a bonus effect just for training the skill?

Maybe 2% agility, or 5% warp speed, or 5% structure HP per level on ships requiring the ASC skill?

Katrina Oniseki
Kujo Minowara
Solitary Ground
#23 - 2013-06-18 17:49:22 UTC
But actually the bonuses will apply only at full rate since all ships that need ASC need it to lvl 5.
Rob Crowley
State War Academy
#24 - 2013-06-18 17:56:19 UTC
Well, I can see the OP's point and have to agree. It feels a bit silly to have a skill that doesn't do anything until you train it to level 5. And I don't think pre-Odyssey injected freighter skills should be considered in this discussion, they are basically freaks of nature now like grandfathered hisec capitals.

It's somewhat similar to all the per level bonuses for the T1 skill on T2 ship hulls. They could effectively all be replaced with a fixed role bonus since you are required to have the T1 ship skill at level 5 anyway.

No big deal though, there's stuff more in need of work.
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