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Deadspace drop rates.

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Xihurawa Kurenor
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-18 10:24:14 UTC
I am merely wondering if anyone else who does highsec deadspace complexes are experiencing fewer drops from the Overseer NPC. I am aware of the "new expansion, nerfed drop rates" phenomenon, but it so happens that it's not distinct to only me; I asked around a select few and the general consensus was that they are also experiencing this. I know that a very minute sample doesn't constitute any statistical significance whatsoever.

I am not complaining, merely curious.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#2 - 2013-06-18 10:30:13 UTC
Xihurawa Kurenor wrote:
I am merely wondering if anyone else who does highsec deadspace complexes are experiencing fewer drops from the Overseer NPC. I am aware of the "new expansion, nerfed drop rates" phenomenon, but it so happens that it's not distinct to only me; I asked around a select few and the general consensus was that they are also experiencing this. I know that a very minute sample doesn't constitute any statistical significance whatsoever.

I am not complaining, merely curious.

Has anyone else experienced this?



Drop rates appeared to fall some time back - haven't noticed any significant change recently
Mnemosyne Gloob
#3 - 2013-06-18 10:48:11 UTC
Wait, was there a patch/expansion lately? Roll
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-18 10:48:56 UTC
I can't say I have noticed any significant changes, but I don't doubt a decrease might have happened at some point. The drop rates were low to begin with and the amount of sites even a group of players can find is too low to make any definite conclusions. At least the same loot keeps dropping and proportional scarcity between the drop types seems to be unchanged, so any potential change made hasn't been drastic.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-06-18 11:07:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
RNG is R.

Yesterday, I put together a new probing ship and went out for my first little trip since the new mechanics arrive on TQ. Somehow, I ended up finding three 4/10 sites in a row and came home with 11 mid-level c-type mods...

..but sure, that wasn't from the overseers, per se. P

[gambler's fallacy]
Obviously, this means I stole all your good results and probably jinxed the loot tables of the entire north-west.
[/gambler's fallacy]
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-18 11:13:19 UTC
Tippia wrote:
RNG is R.


And in eve god is called CCP and she controls the randomness of the RNG.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-06-18 11:19:56 UTC
no they are not nerfed, they are just as random as ever
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Liam Mirren
#8 - 2013-06-18 11:26:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Mirren
J3ssica Alba wrote:
no they are not nerfed, they are just as random as ever


How would you know that for a fact? Random works both ways so if you base your "facts" on your experience so far then uhm... yeah. Also; just because CCP didn't state it was nerfed doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'm not saying it DID get nerfed... or not, but people spouting their "facts" on this subject is a bit silly.

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Van Hiaasen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-06-18 12:27:54 UTC
I run DED 8/10 - 10/10 in null. I have noticed a significant drop in loot drop rates but not from latest expansion. More like around 6 months ago or so.

For example in the last 2 weeks I have run 22 DED sites and have received nothing but the nth tier Overseers effect from each site.

If CCP would please just reply to any one of the forum posts like this that pop up often about loot drops and confirm one way or another if they were changed for DED sites it would put everyone's mind at rest. It would let us know something was changed or we are just on a bad luck streak. Please reply CCP Big smile

Another thing I would love to know is whether the faction POS equipment and tower BPC's that we reintroduced with oddysey are present in DED site loot tables, even if its just a 1% drop chance. I would really like to know, as them only being in relic and data sites would seem a bit off.
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#10 - 2013-06-18 13:44:51 UTC
Yeah, this is old news. The unrated plexes have stupidly low faction spawn/drop rates. The RNG thing is the same but there are a lot more "nothings" in the loot table now. Rated plexes I haven't noticed any change really.
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#11 - 2013-06-18 13:49:00 UTC
I keep finding Overseer's stuffs in an odd place

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Muad 'dib
The Nine Nine
#12 - 2013-06-18 13:51:12 UTC
i always get terrible salvage from t2 wrecks

can i upgrade?

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Pepper Solette
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-06-18 13:55:49 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I keep finding Overseer's stuffs in an odd place


I don't even want to ask....


If the drop rates are higher, then people complain that there is too much and prices drop. If there isn't enough, people complain that they don't get said items and get their billions. No matter what the drop rate is, people are never happy.



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Xihurawa Kurenor
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-06-19 08:29:35 UTC
Pepper Solette wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I keep finding Overseer's stuffs in an odd place


I don't even want to ask....


If the drop rates are higher, then people complain that there is too much and prices drop. If there isn't enough, people complain that they don't get said items and get their billions. No matter what the drop rate is, people are never happy.





Exactly the reason why I'm not complaining.


To everyone, thanks for giving providing information and perspective to this.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#15 - 2013-06-19 09:04:14 UTC
Tippia wrote:
[gambler's fallacy]
Obviously, this means I stole all your good results and probably jinxed the loot tables of the entire north-west.
[/gambler's fallacy]



All of these threads are based on the second variation of the Gambler's fallacy, assuming that bias (in this case, altered odds) is detectable from much smaller sample sizes than what would actually be necessary to detect, let alone identify, altered odds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy#Variations_of_the_gambler.27s_fallacy

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Dave Stark
#16 - 2013-06-19 10:45:15 UTC
has any one noticed onyxia using deep breath more often?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#17 - 2013-06-19 12:57:31 UTC
Van Hiaasen wrote:
I run DED 8/10 - 10/10 in null. I have noticed a significant drop in loot drop rates but not from latest expansion. More like around 6 months ago or so.

For example in the last 2 weeks I have run 22 DED sites and have received nothing but the nth tier Overseers effect from each site.

If CCP would please just reply to any one of the forum posts like this that pop up often about loot drops and confirm one way or another if they were changed for DED sites it would put everyone's mind at rest. It would let us know something was changed or we are just on a bad luck streak. Please reply CCP Big smile

Another thing I would love to know is whether the faction POS equipment and tower BPC's that we reintroduced with oddysey are present in DED site loot tables, even if its just a 1% drop chance. I would really like to know, as them only being in relic and data sites would seem a bit off.


I made 3 bil from a Sansha 10/10 last week, 1.5 bil from a Blood Raider 10/10 the week before. Last night a chased down a sansha 9/10 (i don't usually do forsaken hubs any more, but did a few on a hunch last night and blam, fleet staging point escalation) and got some nice A-type loot.

A month ago I took a cloaky road trip to Goon Space and came out not only alive with my proteus intact, but with a nice 4 bil woth of pith/guristas loot . The month before the same road trip netted me 300 mil for doing more plexes. Same goes for Angel and serpentis space.

Random is random. There is no problem with the drops, the problem is your luck.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-06-19 12:59:14 UTC
Looks liek the actual problem is Jenn stealing all the good loots.


Nerf Jenn tbh

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#19 - 2013-06-19 13:04:21 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Looks liek the actual problem is Jenn stealing all the good loots.


Nerf Jenn tbh


I'm married, you can't nerf that which is already nerfed to ground level.

*clears browser cache and scrubs hard drive before giving computer to wife*
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-06-19 13:10:43 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I keep finding Overseer's stuffs in an odd place


Then stop putting it in there Oops
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