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Son Banned for Botting & All Tunes Used in Same House Banned Too

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Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#41 - 2013-06-18 05:58:52 UTC
Aaaaand I'll just leave this here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

Arrow
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-06-18 06:06:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Garon Gaulle wrote:
So I tried to login to Eve one day and all my accounts were banned.

[...]

I talk to my son who lives in same house and found he was botting without me knowing.



This is called "the oldest excuse in the book".

You're either lying and can't take responsibility for doing the wrong thing, or you're terrible at supervising your children and don't understand the meaning of the word "discipline".

CCP refuse to acknowledge they did anything wrong because they did exactly what they're supposed to, and exactly what they say they will. They have no way of knowing who is on your account, so it is 100% up to you to ensure that it stays in good standing.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Sakaron Hefdover
Perkone
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-06-18 06:10:18 UTC
Confirming kids bot on eve
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#44 - 2013-06-18 06:16:27 UTC
When a botter gets banned that makes me sad. :(

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#45 - 2013-06-18 06:19:47 UTC
How is he still posting, shouldn't he be banned from the forum?

Oh god.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#46 - 2013-06-18 06:20:22 UTC
Garon Gaulle wrote:
So I tried to login to Eve one day and all my accounts were banned.
I was unable to login to any account even to find out what was the problem for 24 days.
( I have 6 active accounts and my son had two)

So after a 24 day ban on ALL my accounts I petition CCP to find out why.
They tell me I was botting.

I talk to my son who lives in same house and found he was botting without me knowing.
I add this to my petition to CCP.

CCP refuses to acknowledge that they did any thing wrong:
ie... Email me first to find out WHO was botting at this location before doing a ban.

Not only that but now ALL my accounts can NEVER be sold or transferred.
My son no longer wants to play eve and I want to transfer his accounts to my accounts.

CCP has refused to allow this.

They say that per:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/team-security-banning-bad-guys-and-also-bad-guys/

Specifically in this section:
"[...]characters who receive a warning such as this will have the characters locked to the account. This means that once you've received a warning for botting your character transfer privileges have been revoked in perpetuity."

I tell them that I received NO warning before being banned and then PERMA banned from character transfer.
They close the petition saying they will do nothing further.

I think this is a policy that is not consistent nor appropriate for my circumstances.



Because discussing a petition in GD is a good thing, will always get you noticed and things will work in your favour.

This will not end well.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-06-18 06:21:46 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
How is he still posting, shouldn't he be banned from the forum?

Feel free to report him for ban evasion.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#48 - 2013-06-18 06:22:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
Yes, that's a good idea.

Oh wait, I have to make a petition for that? PFFFT

Oh god.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#49 - 2013-06-18 06:28:41 UTC
Garon Gaulle wrote:
So I tried to login to Eve one day and all my accounts were banned.
I was unable to login to any account even to find out what was the problem for 24 days.
( I have 6 active accounts and my son had two)

So after a 24 day ban on ALL my accounts I petition CCP to find out why.
They tell me I was botting.

I talk to my son who lives in same house and found he was botting without me knowing.
I add this to my petition to CCP.

CCP refuses to acknowledge that they did any thing wrong:
ie... Email me first to find out WHO was botting at this location before doing a ban.

Not only that but now ALL my accounts can NEVER be sold or transferred.
My son no longer wants to play eve and I want to transfer his accounts to my accounts.

CCP has refused to allow this.

They say that per:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/team-security-banning-bad-guys-and-also-bad-guys/

Specifically in this section:
"[...]characters who receive a warning such as this will have the characters locked to the account. This means that once you've received a warning for botting your character transfer privileges have been revoked in perpetuity."

I tell them that I received NO warning before being banned and then PERMA banned from character transfer.
They close the petition saying they will do nothing further.

I think this is a policy that is not consistent nor appropriate for my circumstances.


CCP have made the rules about botting very clear. Either you knew your son was botting (very likely) or you should have done.

Start a new account and deduct the cost from his allowance. He'll learn a lesson about cheating and you'll learn one about letting him.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Prince Sanguine
#50 - 2013-06-18 06:30:23 UTC
Moral of the story: never have children.

Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#51 - 2013-06-18 06:30:41 UTC
Sometimes when the room is stinky I tell my girlfriend the dog did it.

Secretly, I think she knows it was me.

Just sayin'... Big smile

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#52 - 2013-06-18 06:32:32 UTC
Garon Gaulle wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
[The second strike is a permanent ban.

There was no need for a "2nd strike" as no one was botting after the first incident.

That is my point of contention.

They say you would be warned before you would have a permaban on transferring any accounts.
But there was no 2nd botting act.




So what you're saying is that you should be allowed to bot until you get caught, get your warning and then stop with no other consequences for your - sorry, I mean your "son's" - cheating?

Sorry buddy that's not how it works.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#53 - 2013-06-18 06:34:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Eurydia Vespasian
Riot Girl wrote:
How is he still posting, shouldn't he be banned from the forum?


cellphone. i would bet. note the autocorrect of "toons" in the title.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#54 - 2013-06-18 06:37:50 UTC
Rofl.

Someone probably already mentioned this, but they banned your other accounts based on your IP address being used for the same account as your cheating kid.

You got what you deserved, even assuming the story is true and you aren't trolling. You should have a better idea of what your kid is doing online.

And you certainly should look into it now anyway, botting might be the least of your worries.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2013-06-18 07:02:03 UTC
Confirming beating the crap out of your offspring generally works. Helps alleviate stress too.

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Membaris Grim
hirr
Pandemic Horde
#56 - 2013-06-18 07:05:03 UTC
I cought my little brother cheating once, the next day he was banned from most of his online games. Evil
ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#57 - 2013-06-18 07:21:38 UTC
I have locked this post as a violation of Forum Rules.
10. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.
Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties.

From what you have said your son admitted he was guilty of breaking the rules. His accounts therefore suffer the reprocussions.
Further discussions on this topic are forbidden on these forums.

ISD Gallifreyan

Lt. Commander

Community Communication Liaisons (CCL)

Interstellar Services Department
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