EVE General Discussion

Going afk isnt being casual






Otherwise Id be a casual gamer for leaving my Purifier hanging over miners chuckling to myself for hours

I must be doing something wrong.

I have never seen an advert for Eve, not nowhere no how.

Where would I look for an Eve advert?

Link?

said before but ill be that guy and say it again. Word of mouth. that's how i got in and that's how i got friends in. spread the word mates.

I see EVE ads constantly on forums I visit...

Well, friends that I lured into EVE and that stayed never came through EVE ads either. They asked why I play EVE and is it any good. I said it is, but certainly not a game everyone would enjoy.

I told them about the game, showed them some trailers... Told them the game is nothing like the trailers.

People that stayed - well, stayed.

People that left (reasons):

- No offense meant, but women usually left because there was no avatar play. WiS got them in, when it failed, they left. Not bad players otherwise, though.
- Too much of a time sink (quote: "Its like a second job!")
- Quite a few left because of the indirect spaceship controls

Ratio? About 50:50... (out of about 20 people over the years... Hey, I'm not an EVE affiliate after all. :))

I've seen ads on the PC Gamer website/Various MMO sites/Reddit.

I don't think they were based off my searches as they were ads that covered the background of the site (Not the usual blocks of ads usually near the header/sides), but it's very possible I'm wrong on that one

I found EVE through a PC Gamer advert. It linked to the main site with the Butterfly Effect promo, which hooked me enough to download the game.

I'm on the fence whether a TV advertisement would be effectual. CCP promos are really well produced, but EVE is a very niche game.

I didn't even think about this! Also EVE goes on quite a few 5$ sales



This issue isn't even remotely gender specific.

A game where you are (for the most part) your current ship is a turn off for some people.

While I believe in equality, I also believe that there is a difference between men & women in general. There are always exceptions.

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A difference between men and women, madness I thought it was just between the legs.

Also yeah in my experience most people quit cause of a lack of direct control of the Internet spaceship.

My definition of casual are those godawful people who log in once a week MAXIMUM and then complain about how it isnt fair that people who play everyday have mroe isk or better ships than them, and that they should be able to have POS's in lowsec/null or SOV, or lead an alliance, without having to put in more effort than that 1 day a week.

those are the kind of insufferable leeches i consider casuals.

The problem with getting female players is their low numbers in the gaming industry period, because the common conception is that Games are for men or "nerdy boys", most girls/women will grow up associating it with a "guy thing" and never allow themselves to develop an interest because they want to "fit in" with their friends who chose to align themselves with their Societies gender and expectations assigned to them.

I know several girls i grew up with who like eve, similar to how i know several who have gone to college for mechanical engineering, or play rugby with the fellas on weekends, and i notice a distinct difference between their behaviour, and the behaviour of other girls from the more "mainstream" parts of the city (the area i live in is full of hipsters, loners, goths, and generally any small-demographic group you can think of, from 2010-12 the town motto was "Keep it Weird").

Fact is, most girls in any culture being raised are raised to look at different values and interests as thinsg they "should" be into, and become scared to explore things outside that, same with men and being afraid to wear too much pink or play dressup, or sit and watch romantic movies and cry, it all omes back to Western Gender Expectations and cultural influences.

so yes and no, female gamers are as much an issue with the industry as with culture in general, so the small demographic that DO play games, are even more reduced to those that not only play the games, but arent afraid to participate in an environment dominated by men, with a culture that may as well have been derived from the local pub. Now I;m not saying every EVE player needs to change, I'm just saying we cant expect to change the game to suit "women" when the women you think you are targeting are usually the women who in general wont play *REAL* games (read as "competitive entertainment").

EVE is a niche game.

Niche games generally don't benefit as much from advertisement, since the people interested in playing it usually already know it exists and will spread the word for you to the few people in that niche who aren't already playing it.

Besides, EVE is now a decade old. Everyone even remotely interested in MMOs will probably have heard of it by now.

Sinking a lot of money into advertisement, will hurt the budget for content generation which can make the game bleed long-term subs faster then the temporary influx of short-term casual gamers.

The fact that WoW is doing a lot more advertising it (seriously, when has any game ever benefited from 'doing what WoW does'), is because the game is starting to age and consistently bleeding subscriptions. Temporary influx of casual gamers is Blizzard trying to stall the inevitable of WoW eventually going F2P.