Missions & Complexes

Does any one out there effectively use a thanny with a sentry fit to effectively grind a noms out in null.
If so, what's your fit like, what's your technique. When I first got into the Ishtar and discovered sentries I loved em, however am still yet to use them on my thanny as a main focus for ratting. Or is this the dumbest thing to mention. Does anyone use a sentry nix out there.

supers are limited to bombers and fighters, carriers are fighters and drones.

Hi mate,
I use a caldari chimera but the principle is the same:
Sentry drones = more isk p/h due to reduced travel time compared to fighters.
This kills NPC BS 1.5x faster than a CNR raven

BUT to make it work your fit must include:
Garde sentry drones
You must fit at least 1 preferable 2 Omnidirectional Tracking units
1 target painter or another omnidiectional tracking unit

AND were possible also fit:
1 or 2 large smart bombs for pesky close range frigs.

As far as technique goes
1) I triger the whole horde (or sanctum) - NB: You will need need to be able to tank C.2500DPS
2) Wait for the WHOLE site to agro you (stops them shooting your drones)
3) I tend to target small to large and use medium drones on frigates hulls - means your drones are even less likely to get popped
4) I keep a noctis and a CNR in the maintenance bay of the carrier. I use an alt to support with the CNR until there is about 5 mins left when i swap for the noctis. I finish scooping the wrecks at about the same time as the carrier pops the last targets.
5) ALWAYS keep an eye on intel and local channels, stay aligned to a POS or station and you will never get popped if you warp away as soon as trouble gets too close - I have not even had a close shave yet (I am pleased to say).

ISK per hour: C.50mil
ISK per horde: C25mil
^ At local refiend prices.

A ratting carrier is a dead carrier even if every system for the next 10 jumps around you is full of blues and not a nute in sight why bother to rat in something that a T1 battleship can do just as well while aligning faster than a fat american and not being a bill isk loss when you do end up going boom

Great post except for the fact that DI V does not take 38 days...and you need it to even use a carrier anyway.

i love how narrow minded some of these people are. Everyone in eve that is a serious pve'er knows, its either carrier or mach for optimum pve. both can finish top end anoms in less then 20 minutes and with a support ship taking out small ships it gets down to 12 minutes or so. thats upwards of 150 mil an hour for two characters. So you people who hate carrier ratters are stupid. By the way, at range, with no transversal speed change wouldnt taking the frigs out with sentries as the close in range be the best way to deal with the frigs then allow the sentries to **** the slow moving bs npc's. oh and i lost a carrier once, a year ago. never again. always aligned and ready

The only benifit advancing the carrier skill is to deploy an extra sentry. No damage bonuses are applies to them, only fighters.

Regarding sanctums, if you are doing Hordes, then seriously try Amarr fighters; Templars. BS drones have a strong habbit to clump together, so if you split your fighters into 2 or even 3 groups each group can go for a different clump of drones. Minimises traveling time but it is more intensive ratting.

As said, a Thanny with 2 Omni's is great too, and use either Garde 2's or Curators (T1 or 2) for drone hordes. I have been ratting with my archon for well over 12 months now (and use it in PVP anger whenever i like)... i have only ever been caught once in a horde in my archon and that was by someone from Rooks and kings that i easily chased away. So no losses... yet :)

Always pays to be in a system wide fleet with your corpies, and to watch your security channel. Not sure where a system is when a neut is reported? Right click and Set Destination and see how far away they are. Easy.

I have a DPS/gank thanny i use with the archon too, it has a few I-stabs in the lows and 3 omni's and a Sebo, 4 DCUs and a drone link augemtor. With 14 T2 curatr 2's and 12 curator 2's from my Archon, it makes salvaging in my third char a breeze.

Neut comes in? Recall drones and warp. You will always warp out before a neut warps to you, provided you have started to warp as soon as it comes in to your system.

system scan time: 10 seconds
Align time: 2 seconds?
Warp time: 20 seconds or so. Easily enough for you to warp out and safe up.

You're doing it wrong. Train sentries. Use groups of templars to kill the bs. Ignore cruisers and bcs...kill all bs, warp out to next horde. After 2-3 mins site despawns and you can loot all the bs wrecks. I use tengu could do 3-4 bunker horde solo and it is only 600 dps iirc.

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You get no benefits from being passive aligned, saw a long explanation on this and have also timed it. The ship turning is purely for your viewing pleasure.
Back on topic :)
I use a carrier in a wh, slightly different I know. The sentry's work really well against cruisers and frigs if you can get them before they get too close. Fighters for BS mostly, but that depends on triggers and how many BS need disposing of at the time. I don't ever use ogre's, they tooo slowwwww.